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Nzoner's Game Room>Daniel Jeremiah: Many expect Chiefs to trade up for a CB
Shag 02:54 PM 04-16-2018
Not real surprising, but from here: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...oking-to-trade

Originally Posted by :
Chiefs are a candidate to trade up for a CB: The Chiefs don't own a first-round pick in this year's draft (they dealt that pick away in the Patrick Mahomes trade last year), but I won't be surprised if they move up from where they're picking in the second round (No. 54 overall). They have a glaring need at cornerback and the top cover men will be long gone by the time they are on the clock if they stay put at No. 54. They need to get into the range of picks 35-40 in order to secure a Day One starter at that position, and many around the league expect them to make that happen.

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O.city 10:33 AM 04-23-2018
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
He also said his scouts may reign him in if the value can be acquired.

You got to ask yourself is it more important to sacrifice picks today for a solid starter even if you trade up or go for it all if an elite player is available the next draft
Are the picks they use to trade up this year likely to yield an elite prospect next year?

They won't use next years first and will still have a second next year plus the Rams 2nd.

I'd prefer not to use it, but if they feel it can net them a starting outside corner with high upside, go for it.
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Tribal Warfare 10:36 AM 04-23-2018
Originally Posted by BossChief:


Fuck passing on that to load up for “next year.”

THIS IS NEXT YEAR.

If this year is strong it is more ideal to have more selections.

You'll say the same BS next year too with said revisionist memory.
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BossChief 10:38 AM 04-23-2018
I can’t put into words how foolish I think it is to always have the mentality to trade down in the draft because the “elite guys are in next years draft”

It makes my skin crawl.

There are elite players at positions of need for us IN THIS DRAFT.

We have a cost controlled QB with elite potential.

Load up the roster right now.
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O.city 10:38 AM 04-23-2018
More selections in the 4th round though, who gives a shit?

The difference in a 4/5 rounder and an UDFA is what, a few percent?
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Shag 10:40 AM 04-23-2018
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
You got to ask yourself is it more important to sacrifice picks today for a solid starter even if you trade up or go for it all if an elite player is available the next draft
What does that even mean?? You have no idea when you'll pick, or who will be available next year. There's a reason why next years picks are devalued a full round vs current year picks - you have no idea what those picks will look like, or who might be available.
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Tribal Warfare 10:42 AM 04-23-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
More selections in the 4th round though, who gives a shit?

The difference in a 4/5 rounder and an UDFA is what, a few percent?

trade for a solid CB this season or an elite passrusher next season with more picks to spend that was aggregated from this draft.



and the other comment about extra picks


Tyreek, Bro

Tyreek
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BossChief 10:43 AM 04-23-2018
Why would anyone advocate pushing picks to next year when this draft is loaded?

Even in a vacuum that’s not smart...when you factor in having a Mahomes on a rookie deal and the defensive talent in this draft, it’s straight up silly to even suggest passing on this years talent to bank on “next year”.
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Tribal Warfare 10:47 AM 04-23-2018
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Why would anyone advocate pushing picks to next year when this draft is loaded?

Even in a vacuum that’s not smart...when you factor in having a Mahomes on a rookie deal and the defensive talent in this draft, it’s straight up silly to even suggest passing on this years talent to bank on “next year”.

LOL, we'll have the exact discussion about being aggressive, but we won't have the capital to use because of the expenditure we used in 2018
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Shag 10:47 AM 04-23-2018
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
trade for a solid CB this season or an elite passrusher next season with more picks to spend that was aggregated from this draft.



and the other comment about extra picks


Tyreek, Bro

Tyreek
:-)

If Tyreek is your reasoning, you're out of your mind. He had major character concerns, causing him to drop dramatically. Finding a gem late is very rare occurrence. One outlier does not reset the norm.

You're like the people who say drafting a QB high is a waste, because Brady was a 6th rounder.
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Tribal Warfare 10:49 AM 04-23-2018
Originally Posted by Shag:
:-)

If Tyreek is your reasoning, you're out of your mind. He had major character concerns, causing him to drop dramatically. Finding a gem late is very rare occurrence. One outlier does not reset the norm.

You're like the people who say drafting a QB high is a waste, because Brady was a 6th rounder!
He asked I provided an answer, with the same FO practically intact
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O.city 10:49 AM 04-23-2018
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
trade for a solid CB this season or an elite passrusher next season with more picks to spend that was aggregated from this draft.



and the other comment about extra picks


Tyreek, Bro

Tyreek
Where will this elite pass rusher be found next year? The 2nd round? Elite pass rushing prospects make it to the 2nd round?
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O.city 10:51 AM 04-23-2018
And yeah, Tyreek is in that small ass percent.

4/5th rounders and laters have about the same hit percent as an UDFA.

The overvaluation of draft picks is amazing.
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O.city 10:52 AM 04-23-2018
Even if you move the Rams pick from next year to move up for this year, you still have a full draft of picks next year.

I don't really understand what we're missing here?
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Tribal Warfare 10:52 AM 04-23-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
Where will this elite pass rusher be found next year? The 2nd round? Elite pass rushing prospects make it to the 2nd round?
with a 1st at our disposal we could angle for a top 10 pick again.


Chris Jones is in that 2nd round elite category and was projected as a top 10 pick if stayed for another year
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Tribal Warfare 10:53 AM 04-23-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
And yeah, Tyreek is in that small ass percent.

4/5th rounders and laters have about the same hit percent as an UDFA.

The overvaluation of draft picks is amazing.
you asked
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