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falstaff 04:06 PM 08-01-2001
How can you guys be fans of a clearly racist team? Teams like the 'Redskins' and the 'Chiefs' are clearly depicting American Indians in an inappropriate manner. As if the white man has not done enough damage to the Indian culture and heritage, football teams like the Chiefs must portray Indians and their mascot and portray American Indians in a demoralizing manner.

The US would never stand for team names like the 'Honkies', 'Spooks', 'RagHeads', 'WOPs', or 'Slants'. Why then should we be subjected to the desecration of the American Indian?

By simply supporting this, what I consider to be a criminal organization, you are backing the negative portrayal of the American Indian. Therefore, I consider you not Chiefs fans, but racists. The path to Arrowhead Stadium is truly a Trail of Tears.
bishop_74 08:55 PM 08-01-2001
Come on you ****1ing idiot! By what definition do I fit that stereotype? Huh. Should I have posted the picture of me in my suit and tie? You do realize that I work a day job for a VERY large corporation. What do you do muther****3r? Sell tampons? Get the **** out of here. I am seriously offended by the fact that you are pretentios enough to think you are a class above me, because I can garuntee pal, that I make twice as much as you do you peice of trash. Where is your picture?
AustinChief 08:57 PM 08-01-2001
raiderhader,

Originally Posted by :
I enjoy playing with trolls once in a while. I know it is fruitless (much like arguing with libs), but as can be attested by my constant arguing with libs, I tend to enjoy fruitless arguments.
agreed!

Falstaffless,

So you think the French suck... fair enough... but AGAIn you didn't address the issue... of intent.

--Kyle
morphius 08:57 PM 08-01-2001
bishop - Relax, take a deep breath and remember its just a troll.

Morphius
Trying not to check out bishops women too much :-)
Pearl Man 08:58 PM 08-01-2001
Ok chief fans why don't you cry to your daddy Kyle some more and maybe you will get us sensible types banned... As Mr. Falstaff alluded to that does bring to mind the intolerances of pre-wwII Germany... I don't know how many ways there are to say it it, but it is what offends others that makes something offensive... Native Americans ARE offended by the depiction of their culture by the KC football team... I'm sure if you guys ever made it to the playoffs you guys would invent some mockery such as the infamous "Tomahawk Chop" (developed in Atlanta another racist team- remember John Rocker)... Maybe then you could get a celebrity like Ted Turner to go to one of your games and wear his cap like a mohawk and chop the air with his air-tomahawk...
Mi_chief_fan 08:58 PM 08-01-2001
Originally Posted by :
Originally posted by falstaff
Kyle (if that is your real name),

The term Cheifs offends Native Americans. I posted numerous articles concerning this. I found them uner my bed in St. Joe.
Here's the type of guy we're dealing with: he uses one guys opinion as the basis for his facts, and the moron cannot even spell "CHIEF" right.

Didn't I tell you once: I before E, except after C?
Mi_chief_fan 09:00 PM 08-01-2001
And for you, Pearly: the tomahawk chop was being done by Florida State fans long before the Atlanta Braves were even drawing crowds.

Sorry about your unsuccessful attempt at looking intelligent.
stevieray 09:01 PM 08-01-2001
I'll bet Steven Spielberg drives $100,000 Mercedes Benz.
AustinChief 09:01 PM 08-01-2001
OK guys... after the last post I KNOW who this joker is... if anyone wants his address in Dallas ... the name of his boyfriend... I can get it for ya...


btw he gets real upset when you talk about how much you'd like to get with his sister... I have her address too... any takers :-)

--Kyle
falstaff 09:01 PM 08-01-2001
INTENT??

Have you READ any of my posts? I stated I was trying to help the fans to see that they support a rasist organization.

Additionally, I offered SEVERAL times to chair a committe to re-name the Chiefs.

I have purpose.
morphius 09:01 PM 08-01-2001
Pearl - I'm not sure, but don't think the tomahawk chop was started in Atlanta...
morphius 09:03 PM 08-01-2001
Flastaff - Your intent is to ignore all evidence that is opposite to your view point, and that is what is unaccaptable.

Morphius
bad speeler I'am.
AustinChief 09:07 PM 08-01-2001
Guys... no responses to my last post?

BTW the Poll closes in 5 minutes.

--Kyle
Raiderhater 09:08 PM 08-01-2001
If you would have read my first post, you would have seen were I stated that I haven't read any of the previous posts on this topic, so there is no way I could Know what team you pull for.


And he gets after me for not reading posts????
Raiderhater 09:10 PM 08-01-2001
if you are being serious about knowing this guy and his address (for all I know those are clues about someone from the old Star board that was before my time), let me have it all.
Frazod 09:10 PM 08-01-2001
Damn, I wish I'd got in on this one earlier. I really should check in more. I could've had a field day with this clown.

Anyway, some random thoughts after reading through 17 pages of this crap.

1. I agree that the mascots of certain teams (namely the Cleveland Indians and Washington Redskins) would probably offend me if I was a Native American. I fail to see how an arrowhead is offense to anyone, though, except possibly someone who just had one shot through them at the end of an arrow.

2. Native Americans are NOT the only people in the world who have used arrowheads on the tips of their arrows. Seems like my European ancestors shot the hell out of each other with arrowhead-tipped arrows for centuries before upgrading to guns. Does some particular tribe hold a patent or copyright on the arrowhead that I'm not aware of? I don't think so.

3. The whole idea of calling Native Americans "Indians" originated with Columbus, who mistakely thought he had landed on an island near India when he walked up on the beach of San Salvador. Even after the truth was learned, for some reason the name stuck. So in truth, no Native Americans are actually Indians, as they come from America, not India. I wonder if people from India are offended by our arrowhead? Hmm.....

4. Of course, Native Americans probably shouldn't be called that, either, since "America" is named after Amerigo Vespucci, the first European explorer with enough of a clue to realize "you know, I think this just might be a whole new f#cking couple of continents." If they don't want to be named after people from India, would they want to be named after some Italian explorer?

5. Thank God they used Amerigo's first name. I'd really hate like hell to call myself a Vespuccian. :-)

6. I highly doubt that the vast majority of Native Americans really give a sh!t about the arrowhead on the sides of our helmets. Of course, there's always someone out there who will be offended by everything, and of course there's always muck-raking liberal do-gooder douchebag to trumpet his plight as if it were actually important. Ever drive across an Indian reservation? I have. Believe me, they have better things to worry about.

7. Pearlman, you seem very concerned about all the terrible things we've done to the Indians. God knows there were plenty of them. So I have a suggestion on how you can curb your bleeding-heart, liberal guilt - find the nearest Native American, sign over the deed to your house to him, which is undoubtedly on his land, and go the f#ck back to whatever European country your ancestors hailed from, since you obviously have no right to be here. C'mon, man, take a stand! Do the right thing! Obviously none of us racist Chief fans are willing right 500 years of wrongs! Of course, I forgot - liberals don't make meaningful sacrifices themselves - they just whine about them in coffeehouses and lecture halls and then try get everyone else to shoulder the load. Forget I mentioned it.

8. I'm not surprised that falstaff doesn't like football. He strikes me a Barbie-and-Ken type of guy. Football probably scares him. Along with all us racists.

9. This hasn't been a very serious reply, but these morons don't rate one.

10. WHO GIVES A SH!T???? GO CHIEFS!

Have a nice day!
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