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Nzoner's Game Room>Caleb Williams is destined to be a massive bust
Lzen 10:22 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Only Mahomes can be good according to CP
That's not what is being said.

Did Mahomes act like a self-absorbed jackass as if he's already proven himself in the NFL and can make demands? No? Ok then, this is not even close to being the same thing.
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Titty Meat 10:27 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Lzen:
That's not what is being said.

Did Mahomes act like a self-absorbed jackass as if he's already proven himself in the NFL and can make demands? No? Ok then, this is not even close to being the same thing.
Mahomes bet on himself and won. Caleb is a good player perhaps he is a spoiled douche but he's going to be the #1 pick. Why not ask for the world?
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MahomesMagic 10:28 AM 03-01-2024
Who knows. Talent wise I see him as comparable to Kyler Murray who had some initial success but wasn't able to overcome the Arizona org.

And the coach was KK and now he might be coaching Caleb.

And Washington has been just as inept and lost as a franchise.
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Imon Yourside 10:31 AM 03-01-2024
I get the feeling Daniels might be better. Even Booger agrees!



I also think it depends A LOT on who these guys get as coaches, Andy Reid could do wonders with either one.
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Mecca 11:14 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Imon Yourside:
I get the feeling Daniels might be better. Even Booger agrees!



I also think it depends A LOT on who these guys get as coaches, Andy Reid could do wonders with either one.
I would be really really weary of Daniels, he's throwing to 2 1st round WRs and a lot of his stuff doesn't scream NFL translatable.
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Imon Yourside 11:17 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Mecca:
I would be really really weary of Daniels, he's throwing to 2 1st round WRs and a lot of his stuff doesn't scream NFL translatable.


I know you're a USC guy and I get it to he was throwing to but he also made the right reads and seems fast at it. I'm getting Stroud vibes from Daniels, only he has legs as well. He is a smaller guy so he will have to bulk up a bit for the NFL but we shall see. I'm no expert by far just my eye test and I think Caleb would benefit from having a coach like Reid or Mcvay, perhaps the Seahawks ex O coordinator as well.
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Mecca 11:18 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Imon Yourside:


I know you're a USC guy and I get it to he was throwing to but he also made the right reads and seems fast at it. I'm getting Stroud vibes from Daniels, only he has legs as well. He is a smaller guy so he will have to bulk up a bit for the NFL but we shall see. I'm no expert by far just my eye test and I think Caleb would benefit from having a coach like Reid or Mcvay, perhaps the Seahawks ex O coordinator as well.
Caleb needs to be coached out of thinking he can do anything at anytime, he will literally not take designed easy throws for 1st downs because he wants to go long.
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Imon Yourside 11:39 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Caleb needs to be coached out of thinking he can do anything at anytime, he will literally not take designed easy throws for 1st downs because he wants to go long.
I think his biggest problem is wearing his hate on his sleeve, Mahomes does a great job of being the nice guy saying all the right things but you know he pumps himself full of I'll show them. If Caleb gets the right coach it will make a world of difference, Shane Waldron might be the calming force if he goes to the Bears which I think is a no brainer. I'm just puzzled as to why the Bears kept Eberflus.
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MahomesMagic 10:32 AM 03-01-2024
If Bears trade down and take Drake Maye and Washington pays through the nose for Caleb, I expect Maye to have more NFL success.

Bears seem like their GM has been making very good moves over and over.

Only miss recently was signing Tremaine Edmunds to that contract.
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TwistedChief 10:38 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
If Bears trade down and take Drake Maye and Washington pays through the nose for Caleb, I expect Maye to have more NFL success.

Bears seem like their GM has been making very good moves over and over.

Only miss recently was signing Tremaine Edmunds to that contract.
Chase Claypool says hello. Gosh, that was bad.
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MahomesMagic 10:39 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Chase Claypool says hello. Gosh, that was bad.
Another Non Sequitur.
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TwistedChief 10:42 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Another Non Sequitur.
How is it a non sequitur when you’re praising Ryan Poles for all these good decisions outside of Edmunds and I remind you that he made one of the worst trades of the last few years?

Do you know what a non sequitur is? And why are you capitalizing it?
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MahomesMagic 10:46 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
How is it a non sequitur when you’re praising Ryan Poles for all these good decisions outside of Edmunds and I remind you that he made one of the worst trades of the last few years?

Do you know what a non sequitur is? And why are you capitalizing it?
Ok, they lost a 2nd round pick.

When you add in all the extra capital they already acquired, not sinking any ships.

Veach had a horrible first draft in KC and the Frank Clark trade and the Hitchens FA signing were pretty gross early moves.

None of those stopped Veach from making better moves elsewhere.

Very simple minded mindset you have there.

:-)
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staylor26 10:46 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
How is it a non sequitur when you’re praising Ryan Poles for all these good decisions outside of Edmunds and I remind you that he made one of the worst trades of the last few years?

Do you know what a non sequitur is? And why are you capitalizing it?
He's extra retarded today.
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wazu 10:39 AM 03-01-2024
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
If Bears trade down and take Drake Maye and Washington pays through the nose for Caleb, I expect Maye to have more NFL success.

Bears seem like their GM has been making very good moves over and over.

Only miss recently was signing Tremaine Edmunds to that contract.
I mean, he did just pass on CJ Stroud last year. The Bears will get everything right except QB.
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