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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Census confirms: 63 percent of ‘non-citizens’ on welfare
BanHam 08:43 AM 12-03-2018
by Paul Bedard
December 03, 2018 08:15 AM

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...ion-households


A majority of “non-citizens,” including those with legal green card rights, are tapping into welfare programs set up to help poor and ailing Americans, a Census Bureau finding that bolsters President Trump’s concern about immigrants costing the nation.

In a new analysis of the latest numbers, from 2014, 63 percent of non-citizens are using a welfare program, and it grows to 70 percent for those here 10 years or more, confirming another concern that once immigrants tap into welfare, they don’t get off it.



The Center for Immigration Studies said in its report that the numbers give support for Trump’s plan to cut non-citizens off welfare from the “public charge” if they want a green card that allows them to legally work in the United States.

“The Trump administration has proposed new ‘public charge’ rules making it harder for prospective immigrants to qualify for lawful permanent residence -- green cards -- if they use or are likely to use U.S. welfare programs,” said CIS.

“Concern over immigrant welfare use is justified, as households headed by non-citizens use means-tested welfare at high rates. Non-citizens in the data include illegal immigrants, long-term temporary visitors like guest workers, and permanent residents who have not naturalized. While barriers to welfare use exist for these groups, it has not prevented them from making extensive use of the welfare system, often receiving benefits on behalf of U.S.-born children,” added the Washington-based immigration think tank.

The numbers are huge. The report said that there are 4,684,784 million non-citizen households receiving welfare.

And nearly all, 4,370,385, have at least one worker in the house..

In their report, Steven A. Camarota, the director of research, and Karen Zeigler, a demographer at the Center, said that in census data, about half of those are in the United States illegally.

Their key findings in the analysis:
In 2014, 63 percent of households headed by a non-citizen reported that they used at least one welfare program, compared to 35 percent of native-headed households.
Welfare use drops to 58 percent for non-citizen households and 30 percent for native households if cash payments from the Earned Income Tax Credit are not counted as welfare. EITC recipients pay no federal income tax. Like other welfare, the EITC is a means-tested, anti-poverty program, but unlike other programs one has to work to receive it.





Compared to native households, non-citizen households have much higher use of food programs (45 percent vs. 21 percent for natives) and Medicaid (50 percent vs. 23 percent for natives).

Including the EITC, 31 percent of non-citizen-headed households receive cash welfare, compared to 19 percent of native households. If the EITC is not included, then cash receipt by non-citizen households is slightly lower than natives (6 percent vs. 8 percent).

While most new legal immigrants (green card holders) are barred from most welfare programs, as are illegal immigrants and temporary visitors, these provisions have only a modest impact on non-citizen household use rates because: 1) most legal immigrants have been in the country long enough to qualify; 2) the bar does not apply to all programs, nor does it always apply to non-citizen children; 3) some states provide welfare to new immigrants on their own; and, most importantly, 4) non-citizens (including illegal immigrants) can receive benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children who are awarded U.S. citizenship and full welfare eligibility at birth.
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WhiteWhale 10:46 PM 12-04-2018
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Harvard's George Borjas has done decades of research on this. He found that immigration heavily improves the life of the immigrant, but does very little (good or bad) for the native. He also found that the little benefits that accrue to the native are totally gobbled up by the rich.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_J._Borjas


He was born in Cuba and escaped with his mother when Castro took power. But I still bet he's a "racist".
Of all groups, Cubans are the most republican of any group. It's like 85%+

Doesn't add or subtract from what you're saying, just an interesting fact of voting demos.
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stevieray 10:51 PM 12-04-2018
Originally Posted by Katipan:
I agree.

Mandatory community service on top of work requirements for everyone on benefits who is not disabled.

I'd like a year of service before anyone could vote but baby steps. All hail our Constitution and stuff.
:-)
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B_Ambuehl 09:22 AM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
Undocumented migrants (lol).. in other words illegal immigrants are a net negative on the economy and you won't find ANYTHING to say otherwise that doesn't seriously smudge the numbers.

Yep. https://tinyurl.com/ybnzvxnh
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Loneiguana 09:39 AM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
Undocumented migrants (lol).. in other words illegal immigrants are a net negative on the economy and you won't find ANYTHING to say otherwise that doesn't seriously smudge the numbers.
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
Everything you said here is either stupid, incorrect, or just self loathing.

I get it. You're a cultural masochist. White people be bad. We need to breed them out of existence as fast as possible and it will cure all racism. Very woke bro.


I don't trust any study that uses the word 'refugee' as a weasel word. It's CLEARLY not being used in the traditional definition because if it was then it has nothing, at all, to do with illegal immigrants.
Amazing. You just storm into a thread that has been thoroughly debunked, spew stupidity, then just strawman attack one of the people who thoroughly debunked said thread.

And to top it off, you call 'refugee' a weasel word while complaining that people don't use 'illegal immigrants' to generalize all immigrants, including those who have not committed any illegal act and are thus undocumented, not illegal.

Your unawareness is truly remarkable.
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Randallflagg 10:18 AM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Everything white is white supremacist according to that racist organization.


Indeed. The SPLC is Americas most "legally" racist, terrorist organization in the country.
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Randallflagg 10:23 AM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by Katipan:
I agree.

Mandatory community service on top of work requirements for everyone on benefits who is not disabled.

I'd like a year of service before anyone could vote but baby steps. All hail our Constitution and stuff.

It's funny, when you think about it.....there was a time in this country - during the depression - The WPA (Works Project Administration) employed some 9 million people. You wanted help from the "gumbit"? You WORKED for it.

Today? It's "demeaning" for people to engage in HONEST work to receive benefits....

Only in 21st century America folks.....
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GloryDayz 01:49 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by Randallflagg:
It's funny, when you think about it.....there was a time in this country - during the depression - The WPA (Works Project Administration) employed some 9 million people. You wanted help from the "gumbit"? You WORKED for it.

Today? It's "demeaning" for people to engage in HONEST work to receive benefits....

Only in 21st century America folks.....
A prime reason they shouldn't vote. It's bad enough that congress gets to vote for its raises, at least they have to get elected, but these people offer nothing to society and should have more on their mind than who to vote for (who will give them more cheese).
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2bikemike 11:03 PM 12-05-2018
Talking to a buddy at work today who was born in Tijuana and came over legally when he was 10 or 11, His wife is also from Mexico. They watch a lot of Mexican TV, News Etc. He said that it is funny to watch because they are arguing all the same talking points across the border that we are here about illegal immigrants. Only its done in Spanish.
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GloryDayz 11:15 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by 2bikemike:
Talking to a buddy at work today who was born in Tijuana and came over legally when he was 10 or 11, His wife is also from Mexico. They watch a lot of Mexican TV, News Etc. He said that it is funny to watch because they are arguing all the same talking points across the border that we are here about illegal immigrants. Only its done in Spanish.
Arguing that these assholes who claim they need political asylum from their home country, but Mexico isn't good enough for them?

Sent from my 9+ using Tapatalk
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Bob Dole 11:22 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by BanHam:
by Paul Bedard
December 03, 2018 08:15 AM

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...ion-households


A majority of “non-citizens,” including those with legal green card rights, are tapping into welfare programs set up to help poor and ailing Americans, a Census Bureau finding that bolsters President Trump’s concern about immigrants costing the nation.

In a new analysis of the latest numbers, from 2014, 63 percent of non-citizens are using a welfare program, and it grows to 70 percent for those here 10 years or more, confirming another concern that once immigrants tap into welfare, they don’t get off it.



The Center for Immigration Studies said in its report that the numbers give support for Trump’s plan to cut non-citizens off welfare from the “public charge” if they want a green card that allows them to legally work in the United States.

“The Trump administration has proposed new ‘public charge’ rules making it harder for prospective immigrants to qualify for lawful permanent residence -- green cards -- if they use or are likely to use U.S. welfare programs,” said CIS.

“Concern over immigrant welfare use is justified, as households headed by non-citizens use means-tested welfare at high rates. Non-citizens in the data include illegal immigrants, long-term temporary visitors like guest workers, and permanent residents who have not naturalized. While barriers to welfare use exist for these groups, it has not prevented them from making extensive use of the welfare system, often receiving benefits on behalf of U.S.-born children,” added the Washington-based immigration think tank.

The numbers are huge. The report said that there are 4,684,784 million non-citizen households receiving welfare.

And nearly all, 4,370,385, have at least one worker in the house..

In their report, Steven A. Camarota, the director of research, and Karen Zeigler, a demographer at the Center, said that in census data, about half of those are in the United States illegally.

Their key findings in the analysis:
In 2014, 63 percent of households headed by a non-citizen reported that they used at least one welfare program, compared to 35 percent of native-headed households.
Welfare use drops to 58 percent for non-citizen households and 30 percent for native households if cash payments from the Earned Income Tax Credit are not counted as welfare. EITC recipients pay no federal income tax. Like other welfare, the EITC is a means-tested, anti-poverty program, but unlike other programs one has to work to receive it.





Compared to native households, non-citizen households have much higher use of food programs (45 percent vs. 21 percent for natives) and Medicaid (50 percent vs. 23 percent for natives).

Including the EITC, 31 percent of non-citizen-headed households receive cash welfare, compared to 19 percent of native households. If the EITC is not included, then cash receipt by non-citizen households is slightly lower than natives (6 percent vs. 8 percent).

While most new legal immigrants (green card holders) are barred from most welfare programs, as are illegal immigrants and temporary visitors, these provisions have only a modest impact on non-citizen household use rates because: 1) most legal immigrants have been in the country long enough to qualify; 2) the bar does not apply to all programs, nor does it always apply to non-citizen children; 3) some states provide welfare to new immigrants on their own; and, most importantly, 4) non-citizens (including illegal immigrants) can receive benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children who are awarded U.S. citizenship and full welfare eligibility at birth.
I cannot even read the thing because you are a horrible RACIST
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2bikemike 01:26 PM 12-06-2018
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Arguing that these assholes who claim they need political asylum from their home country, but Mexico isn't good enough for them?

Sent from my 9+ using Tapatalk
He didn't say or imply that. Just that if you are against the caravan from Honduras your a racist, or from the other side nothing but a bunch of troublemakers bringing sickness, crime and costing a lot of money.
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GloryDayz 07:21 PM 12-06-2018
Originally Posted by 2bikemike:
He didn't say or imply that. Just that if you are against the caravan from Honduras your a racist, or from the other side nothing but a bunch of troublemakers bringing sickness, crime and costing a lot of money.
You should inquire about why the legal route is so terrible that the criminal route is a must.
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2bikemike 10:45 PM 12-06-2018
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
You should inquire about why the legal route is so terrible that the criminal route is a must.
He would say the legal route isn't terrible, and the criminals should be deported ASAP. Actually he wouldn't call them criminals. He would call them worthless pieces of crap. But then again he is probably a racist mexican!:-)

I work with several 1st generation immigrants. They all came here legally and have no tolerance for those trying to jump to the head of the line. In fact they are the most vocal about getting a handle on the illegal immigration crisis.
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GloryDayz 10:53 PM 12-06-2018
Originally Posted by 2bikemike:
He would say the legal route isn't terrible, and the criminals should be deported ASAP. Actually he wouldn't call them criminals. He would call them worthless pieces of crap. But then again he is probably a racist mexican!:-)

I work with several 1st generation immigrants. They all came here legally and have no tolerance for those trying to jump to the head of the line. In fact they are the most vocal about getting a handle on the illegal immigration crisis.
Well if he's legal, like the guy who painted my house, I like him!
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