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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Dems want to foul the House even more
HonestChieffan 09:49 AM 12-02-2018
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...m_npd_nn_fb_ma

This is nothing more than a way to divide us more



WASHINGTON — Newly empowered Democrats plan to let lawmakers wear religious head coverings on the House floor by creating an exception to a hat ban that has existed since 1837 — when there was reportedly very little debate before the enactment of a rule prohibiting what one member then described as the “really harmless but apparently indecorous practice” of indoor hat-wearing.

In recent years, the rule hasn't been enforced to preclude members, staff or religious leaders from wearing head coverings on the floor, but the victory of Minnesota Rep.-elect Ilhan Omar, a Muslim who wears a headscarf, has put a spotlight on its continued existence.

Democrats say they will add an exemption for religious headwear under their new package of rules changes for the next Congress, which begins in January, so that the protection of religious expression is explicit. The language will also cover someone wearing a head covering due to illness and loss of hair.

"Democrats know that our strength lies in our diversity, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation or religion,” said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., in a statement to NBC News. “After voters elected the most diverse Congress in history, clarifying the antiquated rule banning headwear will further show the remarkable progress we have made as a nation."

"This change will finally codify that no restriction may be placed on a member’s ability to do the job they were elected to do simply because of their faith," said incoming House Rules Committee Chairman Jim McGovern, D-Mass., who is working on the amendment with Omar and Pelosi. "The American people just elected the most diverse Congress in history and our rules should embody that."

Omar applauded the plan.

"No one puts a scarf on my head but me. It’s my choice — one protected by the First Amendment," she wrote on Twitter. "And this is not the last ban I’m going to work to lift."
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BucEyedPea 10:49 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by vailpass:
The camel cannot be allowed to get it's nose under the tent.
It's already here, without any religious head scarves being worn in Congress.

Just thought you oughta' know.
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BucEyedPea 10:51 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
Who gets to decide which religions get 1st Amendment protection and which don’t?
Looks like Conservatives and Christians want the state to determine that — their way, based on posts in here.
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lostcause 11:12 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by vailpass:
None of that matters.
The muzlim religion is not compatible with Western civilization. Radical iszlam is the enemy of the US and the West. Period. We must be on full alert or they will do to us what they are doing to the UK. NO EXCEPTIONS.
I imagine if this was a thread about the 2nd Amendment that you would be kicking and screaming about upholding the Constitution.
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Hoopsdoc 11:19 AM 12-03-2018
Meh. I don’t have a problem with this.

Although I can see Whales point. In this era of “everything is offensive”, this could easily be seen that way.
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NinerDoug 11:22 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Looks like Conservatives and Christians want the state to determine that — their way, based on posts in here.
Well, seems to me that anyone who doesn't respect the First Amendment, or who respects it only insofar as it can be used to protect his own religion, cannot really call himself "conservative."

It's all hyperbole anyway. Like the people who want to summarily execute people who cross the border illegally. They know it's not within the realm of reality. But it makes them feel like a rooster, puffed up and walking around the henhouse. Just so much ridiculousness.
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RodeoPants2 11:29 AM 12-03-2018
[QUOTE=banecat;13932134]
Originally Posted by RodeoPants2:
It doesn't. LOL I can't believe you're so stupid as to think that's what's happening here.

This is what I don't get about the left. All religion is ridiculous. Not just Christianity. I don't give a shit which space fairy makes you wear a hat. Belief is dangerous no matter where it's coming from
I mean, I agree.

Let's get rid of prayers in congress, the official chaplain, swearing in on a religious text, tax-exempt status for churches, etc. etc.

But if you're going to let people swear on a bible, you have to let them swear on a quran too.
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BucEyedPea 11:33 AM 12-03-2018
[QUOTE=RodeoPants2;13932782]
Originally Posted by banecat:

I mean, I agree.

Let's get rid of prayers in congress, the official chaplain, swearing in on a religious text, tax-exempt status for churches, etc. etc.

But if you're going to let people swear on a bible, you have to let them swear on a quran too.
The bold part you suggested is also unConstitutional as it pertains to congress making law against an Establishment of religion.
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patteeu 12:39 PM 12-03-2018
If we just banned women from Congress, this wouldn't be an issue.
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BucEyedPea 12:52 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by patteeu:
If we just banned women from Congress, this wouldn't be an issue.
:-)

No we'd have priests wearing collars as we have had in the past.
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vailpass 01:14 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
Who gets to decide which religions get 1st Amendment protection and which don’t?
In the application of national security Izlam isn't a religion, it's a political agenda with the overthrow of those they identify as infidels as a core tenet.
Ask Great Britain.
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Detoxing 01:28 PM 12-03-2018
So...Penis hats @ congress?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Priapus_Church
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srvy 01:36 PM 12-03-2018





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Hoopsdoc 01:36 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
So...Penis hats @ congress?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Priapus_Church
I’ve no doubt you’re a card carrying member.
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banecat 01:50 PM 12-03-2018
[QUOTE=stevieray;13932152]
Originally Posted by banecat:

God isn't religion, dude.
You're right. But both are the invention of man
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NinerDoug 03:14 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by vailpass:
In the application of national security Izlam isn't a religion, it's a political agenda with the overthrow of those they identify as infidels as a core tenet.
Ask Great Britain.
Ok.

Who gets to decide which so-called religions are actually religions, and which ones are "political agendas"?
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