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NinerDoug 09:57 AM 10-15-2018
And Trump welshes on the bet.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...2THuIpCapMoJgc


Elizabeth Warren releases DNA results indicating she has Native American heritage

Trump, who has said he would donate $1M to charity if Warren took a DNA test, replied bluntly to the news: "Who cares?"

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who has faced repeated ridicule from President Donald Trump for claiming that she is of Native American descent, released a DNA test on Monday that says there is "strong evidence" to back up her claim.

The release of the test highlights how prepared Warren is to take on Trump — who has referred to her as "Pocahontas" — over the insults and suggests the Massachusetts Democrat is working to shore up potential political weaknesses before a possible 2020 presidential run by addressing charges that she misrepresented her family background to gain unfair advantage in her career.

Warren's DNA test was first reported by The Boston Globe, which obtained news of the results before they were released by the senator.

The test, conducted by Stanford University professor Carlos Bustamante, a genetics and genomics expert, concludes that there is "strong evidence" that Warren's "DNA sample of primarily European descent also contains Native American ancestry from an ancestor in the sample's pedigree 6-10 generations ago," according the test's executive summary.
According to the summary, Bustamante concludes with 99 percent confidence that Warren's DNA sample contains five genetic segments, spanning 12.3 million DNA bases, which are "Native American in origin." The report also details the results of "several additional analyses to confirm the presence of Native American ancestry and to estimate the position" of an "unadmixed Native American Ancestor" — meaning an ancestor with "100 percent ancestry assigned to a single population" — in Warren's family tree.
Warren also released a video along with the results that not only seeks to address head-on the single biggest attack leveled against her by Republican critics, but offers the intensely personal Warren a platform to introduce herself to a larger audience.

She retraces her roots in Norman, Oklahoma, "on the ragged edge of the middle class," and the "twists and turns" that followed in her personal and professional life.

The video includes testimony from three of her brothers, a nephew, and a cousin who is a Cherokee Nation citizen. They note that her father's family was bitterly opposed to her parents' marriage because of her mother's claims of Native American heritage.

It also features faculty members from various colleges and universities where Warren taught, backing up Warren's assertion that her background "played no role in my hiring."

The video also shows Warren receiving the test results from Bustamante in a phone call.

"The president likes to call my mom a liar. What do the facts say?" Warren tells Bustamante on the phone in the video.

"The facts suggest that you absolutely have Native American ancestry in your pedigree," Bustamante responds.

Trump quickly dismissed Warren's latest move.
"Who cares?" the president told reporters Monday when told about the test. "I hope she's running for president because she’s easy, she wants to make the U.S. Venezuela."

Earlier, White House counselor Kellyanne Conway also dismissed the DNA test.

"I just find that the Democrats are talking about 2020 and my boss, the president of the United States, is talking about 2018," she said. "I know that everybody likes to pick their junk science and sound science depending on the conclusion, it seems some days. But I have not looked at the DNA test. And it really doesn’t interest me to be frank with you."

Warren has sought to address the controversy before in a more muted way. In February, she addressed the National Congress of American Indians, where she reiterated that her claims of ancestry were based on the story passed down through her family, but acknowledged that only Native American tribes truly determine citizenship.
In that speech, she explained that her mother's family was "part-Native American" and that her parents eloped in 1932 because her father's family opposed the relationship.

Warren also said that she "never used my family tree to get a break or get ahead" and "never used it to advance my career."

Warren has faced repeated attacks from Trump over her claims that she is of Native American descent. He began using the "Pocahontas" slur to attack Warren during the 2016 campaign, and has said that Warren had "made up her heritage, which I think is racist."

In July, at a rally in Montana, he challenged Warren to take a DNA test and said he would pay $1 million to her "favorite charity if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."

"You know those little [DNA] kits they sell on television for $2?" he said then. "I’m going to get one of those little kits and in the middle of the debate, when she proclaims she’s of Indian heritage because her mother said she has high cheekbones."

"We will take that little kit and say, but we have to do it very gently because we’re in the ‘MeToo’ generation … and we will very gently take that kit and we will slowly toss it, hoping it doesn’t hit her and injure her arm ... and we will say I will give you $1 million to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian," Trump added. "I have a feeling she will say no."

Warren, on Monday, reminded Trump of his promise, urging him to donate the sum to the National Indigenous Women's Resource Center. She also called on Trump to release his tax returns.

In his comments to reporters on Monday, Trump said he never made such a promise. "I didn't say that. You better read it again," he said.
As recently as last week, Trump lobbed the attack line at Warren, saying at a rally in Kansas that “I’ve got more Indian blood in me than Pocahontas, and I have none."

Warren faced similar attacks about her heritage during her 2012 Senate race against Republican Scott Brown, who claimed she had dishonestly listed herself as Native American while working as a faculty member at the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard to help her career.

Warren denied the charges. And in a precursor to Monday’s announcement, Warren’s campaign in September produced personnel files and other documents related to her academic career at six universities. A Boston Globe analysis of the documents and interviews with officials involved in her hiring "found clear evidence … that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered” in her hiring.
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Donger 11:53 AM 10-15-2018
Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson:
She said she had a distant NA ancestor. Turns out she does indeed have a distant NA ancestor. This shit ain’t complicated.
I haven't seen where she claimed that. I do see where she listed herself as a minority. In this case, Native American.

Do you think she qualifies as a minority?
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Trolly McTrollson 11:54 AM 10-15-2018
Originally Posted by Donger:
I haven't seen where she claimed that. I do see where she listed herself as a minority. In this case, Native American.

Do you think she qualifies as a minority?
I think she has a distant NA ancestor, as she claimed. Not sure why you care what I think. Remind me what the big scandal here is?
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Donger 11:56 AM 10-15-2018
Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson:
I think she has a distant NA ancestor, as she claimed. Not sure why you care what I think. Remind me what the big scandal here is?
If there's a scandal, it's that she listed herself as a minority. I don't think her DNA test shows that at all.

You either agree or not.
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Easy 6 11:57 AM 10-15-2018
One things for sure, she is 100% batshit crazy
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Chiefspants 11:59 AM 10-15-2018
This was a clear move to put Trump on the defensive with his charity promise and his refusal to release his tax returns.

It won't work, his base won't care - and he'll stick to the 1/1024 talking point like PB has.
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ForeverChiefs58 12:00 PM 10-15-2018
She couldn’t get a job at Harvard without being a minority.

You would think this would piss off people of actual minority groups and people that didn’t or couldn’t get her job.

Too bad they don’t just hire most qualified people and go off their achievements
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warrior 12:01 PM 10-15-2018
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
One things for sure, she is 100% batshit crazy



Hey it's in her DNA :-)
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Eleazar 12:01 PM 10-15-2018
Originally Posted by Donger:
If there's a scandal, it's that she listed herself as a minority. I don't think her DNA test shows that at all.

You either agree or not.
She’s tried to trade on supposed Native American heritage and a wished-for minority status, and as we can see she’s at most... what would it even be, one of 32 or one of 64 of her ancestors may have been a native person? Who living in the country can’t claim a minority status based on that kind of a standard?
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redshirt32 12:01 PM 10-15-2018
She lied period.
She's an old White Lady
Bet her dildo has more Indian pigments than she has.
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Trolly McTrollson 12:02 PM 10-15-2018
Originally Posted by Donger:
If there's a scandal, it's that she listed herself as a minority. I don't think her DNA test shows that at all.

You either agree or not.
So to summarize, Warren truthfully claimed she has a NA ancestor on a form, Harvard says she did not get any preferential consideration when she was hired, Warren has no say in how Harvard decides to hire people anyway. Scandalous!

Meanwhile, Trump flat out lies about the million dollar bet just like he lied to you about the wall and locking her up etc etc and you’re still hugging his nuts like bitchmade little toadies.

Just take the L, dude. You guys got nothing here.
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vailpass 12:06 PM 10-15-2018
She claimed minority status on an application.
She is not a minority.
She falsified her application.
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Donger 12:07 PM 10-15-2018
Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson:
So to summarize, Warren truthfully claimed she has a NA ancestor on a form, Harvard says she did not get any preferential consideration when she was hired, Warren has no say in how Harvard decides to hire people anyway. Scandalous!

Meanwhile, Trump flat out lies about the million dollar bet just like he lied to you about the wall and locking her up etc etc and you’re still hugging his nuts like bitchmade little toadies.

Just take the L, dude. You guys got nothing here.
No. Again, she listed herself as a minority. Her own DNA test shows that she isn't.

Unless, of course, you think she is a minority. Do you?

Trump didn't lie (here). The bet seems to be in two parts: that she take a DNA test (done) and that it show that she's "an Indian." She clearly is not.

You are either okay with those facts, or you are not.
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Donger 12:17 PM 10-15-2018
Oh, this is wonderful...

Bustamante calculated that Warren’s pure Native American ancestor appears in her family tree “in the range of 6-10 generations ago.” That timing fits Warren’s family lore, passed down during her Oklahoma upbringing, that her great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, was at least partially Native American.

Senator Elizabeth Warren has released a DNA test that provides “strong evidence’’ she had a Native American in her family tree dating back 6 to 10 generations.

Smith was born in the late 1700s. She identified as white in historical documents, though at the time Indians faced discrimination, and Smith would have had strong incentives to call herself white if possible.

The inherent imprecision of the six-page DNA analysis could provide fodder for Warren’s critics. If O.C. Sarah Smith were fully Native American, that would make Warren up to 1/32nd native. But the generational range based on the ancestor that the report identified suggests she’s between 1/64th and 1/1,024th Native American. The report notes there could be missed ancestors.

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vailpass 12:24 PM 10-15-2018
Originally Posted by Donger:
Oh, this is wonderful...

Bustamante calculated that Warren’s pure Native American ancestor appears in her family tree “in the range of 6-10 generations ago.” That timing fits Warren’s family lore, passed down during her Oklahoma upbringing, that her great-great-great-grandmother, O.C. Sarah Smith, was at least partially Native American.

Senator Elizabeth Warren has released a DNA test that provides “strong evidence’’ she had a Native American in her family tree dating back 6 to 10 generations.

Smith was born in the late 1700s. She identified as white in historical documents, though at the time Indians faced discrimination, and Smith would have had strong incentives to call herself white if possible.

The inherent imprecision of the six-page DNA analysis could provide fodder for Warren’s critics. If O.C. Sarah Smith were fully Native American, that would make Warren up to 1/32nd native. But the generational range based on the ancestor that the report identified suggests she’s between 1/64th and 1/1,024th Native American. The report notes there could be missed ancestors.
:-)
Let the memes commence!
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Trolly McTrollson 12:31 PM 10-15-2018
Originally Posted by Donger:
No. Again, she listed herself as a minority. Her own DNA test shows that she isn't.

Unless, of course, you think she is a minority. Do you?

Trump didn't lie (here). The bet seems to be in two parts: that she take a DNA test (done) and that it show that she's "an Indian." She clearly is not.

You are either okay with those facts, or you are not.
You know every time Trump blatantly lies he’s laughing in your face, right? Because he knows you morons will carry his water no matter how ridiculous you look.
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