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NinerDoug 06:35 PM 10-10-2018
And these animals are supposed to be our ally......

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/10/65626...ing-journalist

Trump Administration Presses Saudis For Information On Missing Journalist

More than a week has passed since Saudi writer Jamal Khashoggi vanished after visiting the Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul. Turkish authorities are telling journalists what they think happened, citing released video footage: that Khashoggi was targeted and murdered.

President Trump said Wednesday that he has spoken to the Saudi government "at the highest levels" about the situation.

"We cannot let this happen to reporters, to anybody. And we're going to get to the bottom of it," Trump said. He said the first lady's office was making arrangements to bring Khashoggi's fiancée, Turkish national Hatice Cengiz, to the White House.

In the days since Khashoggi disappeared, there have been few signs that the Trump administration was putting pressure on Riyadh to explain what had happened.

But in a statement Wednesday, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said that National Security Adviser John Bolton and Trump adviser Jared Kushner spoke to Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman yesterday about the matter. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo also spoke with the crown prince "to reiterate the United States' request for information," Sanders said.

The Washington Post reported on Tuesday that before Khashoggi disappeared, U.S. intelligence had intercepted communications in which the Saudis had been discussing a plot to abduct him. Khashoggi has been a contributing writer for The Post.

But on Wednesday, the State Department said the U.S. had no advance knowledge of Khashoggi's disappearance.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has not directly accused Saudi Arabia of disappearing Khashoggi. He said if they have footage of Khashoggi leaving the consulate, they should release it, the Associated Press reports. Meanwhile, a newspaper close to Erdogan published the names and photographs of 15 Saudi men whom it said were sent to Istanbul to kill Khashoggi.

The version of events described by Turkish authorities is grisly. One Turkish security official told The New York Times that within two hours of arriving at the consulate, Khashoggi had been killed and dismembered with a bone saw that the Saudi team had brought. He compared the killing to the movie Pulp Fiction.

The Post obtained a series of surveillance video clips that purport to show movements involved in the killing or abduction of Khashoggi: the journalist entering the consulate; a black Mercedes leaving the consulate and then arriving at the consul general's house; Cengiz, his fiancée, pacing outside the consulate as she makes phone calls; the Saudi men leaving an Istanbul hotel and getting on planes at the airport. The Post notes that the clips have inconsistent time stamps at one point, are too blurry to make out key license plate numbers and are heavily edited throughout.

Khashoggi is a resident of the United States and has been living in Washington, D.C. The journalist is the former editor-in-chief of a Saudi newspaper and was an adviser to Saudi government officials. Khashoggi had written columns critical of the Saudi government in The Post in the past year.
In an op-ed published in The Post on Tuesday, Khashoggi's fiancée implored Trump and the first lady to become involved in the search for answers.

"I also urge Saudi Arabia, especially King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, to show the same level of sensitivity and release CCTV footage from the consulate," Cengiz wrote. "Although this incident could potentially fuel a political crisis between the two nations, let us not lose sight of the human aspect of what happened. Jamal is a valuable person, an exemplary thinker and a courageous man who has been fighting for his principles."
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Easy 6 08:34 PM 10-16-2018
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
What if they called it an abortion? You'd like that, yes?
:-)
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WhiteWhale 08:42 PM 10-16-2018
Originally Posted by SuperBowl4:
That was the old King days. Trumps down with the new King, Crown Prince, and the Futuristic city of NEOM, Saudi Arabia
You mean the guy who's giving women and minorities rights in Saudi Arabia that they've NEVER HAD?

Yeah, let's roll it back. No need to have women driving. Next thing you know they'll want to vote! I mean this guy isn't even against exterminating the jews. We need to get this guy set straight, like Erdogan, a guy who kills and imprisons journalists more than Putin. Then, for whatever reason, we just don't care. Just like we don't care about their decades long illegal occupation of cyprus or generations long oppression of Kurds, armenians, and other ethnic minorities.

Because reasons.
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Just Passin' By 08:58 PM 10-16-2018
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
You mean the guy who's giving women and minorities rights in Saudi Arabia that they've NEVER HAD?

Yeah, let's roll it back. No need to have women driving. Next thing you know they'll want to vote! I mean this guy isn't even against exterminating the jews. We need to get this guy set straight, like Erdogan, a guy who kills and imprisons journalists more than Putin. Then, for whatever reason, we just don't care. Just like we don't care about their decades long illegal occupation of cyprus or generations long oppression of Kurds, armenians, and other ethnic minorities.

Because reasons.
Women having the vote in other countries is something we should give zero ****s about. The same is true of women driving in other countries.
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BucEyedPea 05:56 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
You mean the guy who's giving women and minorities rights in Saudi Arabia that they've NEVER HAD?

Yeah, let's roll it back. No need to have women driving. Next thing you know they'll want to vote! I mean this guy isn't even against exterminating the jews. We need to get this guy set straight, like Erdogan, a guy who kills and imprisons journalists more than Putin. Then, for whatever reason, we just don't care. Just like we don't care about their decades long illegal occupation of cyprus or generations long oppression of Kurds, armenians, and other ethnic minorities.

Because reasons.
So.

Why should we moralize about the internal affairs of other countries to force them to be like a western "democracy?"

It's none of our business. This is what progressives do. They're busy-bodies.
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HonestChieffan 06:04 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
So.

Why should we moralize about the internal affairs of other countries to force them to be like a western "democracy?"

It's none of our business. This is what progressives do. They're busy-bodies.

Troll post. You cant mean this.
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BucEyedPea 06:13 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by HonestChieffan:
Troll post. You cant mean this.
No you're the troller making troll posts like Trolly McTrollson.

It is consistent with what I have posted for years here. This is more proof you're a Republican Progressive aka NeoCon—a veritable busy body poking your nose telling other countries how to run their affairs.
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BucEyedPea 06:22 AM 10-17-2018
Geezaz, it took 7 minutes to kill this guy via dismemberment. Ugh! Whatta' way to go.
It took seven minutes for Jamal Khashoggi to die, a Turkish source who has listened in full to an audio recording of the Saudi journalist's last moments told Middle East Eye.

Khashoggi was dragged from the consul-general’s office at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul and onto the table of his study next door, the Turkish source said.

Horrendous screams were then heard by a witness downstairs, the source said.

"The consul himself was taken out of the room. There was no attempt to interrogate him. They had come to kill him,” the source told MEE.

The screaming stopped when Khashoggi - who was last seen entering the Saudi consulate on 2 October - was injected with an as yet unknown substance.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/e...oggi-829291552

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BucEyedPea 06:28 AM 10-17-2018
Some of the suspects who went to Instanbul to carve this man up are close to the crown prince.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/1...port-149446239
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BucEyedPea 06:35 AM 10-17-2018
It's not Iran that is the world's largest sponsor of terrorism—another FP myth perpetuated by our govt. It's the Saudis. Rand Paul on Saudis.

"It's important to remember that Saudi Arabia is the largest state sponsor of radical Islam. They fund tens of thousands of madrassas around the world, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, Philippines, all teaching hatred of America. They have been doing this for decades. They are not our friends."

Paul said the apparent murder of a Saudi writer at the Saudi consulate in Turkey is just more proof "that we need not be arming them."

President Trump has said he is reluctant to cut off $110 billion in U.S. arms sales to the Saudis, who might then turn to Russia or China to supply them.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/t...ggi-1828542903
Saudi crown prince denies his involvement.
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srvy 07:14 AM 10-17-2018
Hmmmm Saudi Arabia and Muslim Brotherhood somehow it just feels like Clinton and Obama somewhere in the mix. Covering up tracks perhaps.
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NinerDoug 07:22 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by hotrod:
We are headed in the direction of energy independence? wa wa wa wait.....democrats are for this? I thought they were for energy independence as long as it was green energy? surely they don't fight drilling, pipe lines, or any other natural energy.
We live in a world of facts. In this world, the Saudis don’t have the ability to arbitrarily set the price of oil. If we lived in Fantasy Land, I suppose they could. But we don’t. So they can’t. End of story.
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GloryDayz 08:41 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Geezaz, it took 7 minutes to kill this guy via dismemberment. Ugh! Whatta' way to go.
It took seven minutes for Jamal Khashoggi to die, a Turkish source who has listened in full to an audio recording of the Saudi journalist's last moments told Middle East Eye.

Khashoggi was dragged from the consul-general’s office at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul and onto the table of his study next door, the Turkish source said.

Horrendous screams were then heard by a witness downstairs, the source said.

"The consul himself was taken out of the room. There was no attempt to interrogate him. They had come to kill him,” the source told MEE.

The screaming stopped when Khashoggi - who was last seen entering the Saudi consulate on 2 October - was injected with an as yet unknown substance.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/e...oggi-829291552
I wonder how long it takes whorish women having abortions to use a vacuum to shred their own babies that are still inside them?
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Trolly McTrollson 09:05 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
So.

Why should we moralize about the internal affairs of other countries to force them to be like a western "democracy?"

It's none of our business. This is what progressives do. They're busy-bodies.
I mean, they’re sawing up journalists working for US newspapers, but then Father Trump teaches us that the lyin’ news media are the Enemy of The People, so I guess idk if you guys should care or not.
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patteeu 09:24 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Geezaz, it took 7 minutes to kill this guy via dismemberment. Ugh! Whatta' way to go.
It took seven minutes for Jamal Khashoggi to die, a Turkish source who has listened in full to an audio recording of the Saudi journalist's last moments told Middle East Eye.

Khashoggi was dragged from the consul-general’s office at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul and onto the table of his study next door, the Turkish source said.

Horrendous screams were then heard by a witness downstairs, the source said.

"The consul himself was taken out of the room. There was no attempt to interrogate him. They had come to kill him,” the source told MEE.

The screaming stopped when Khashoggi - who was last seen entering the Saudi consulate on 2 October - was injected with an as yet unknown substance.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/e...oggi-829291552
If they killed him by dismemberment, there wouldn't be any need for an injection to finish the job. Your imagination is getting the better of you.
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Donger 09:29 AM 10-17-2018
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
There is really not much they can do to the US in 2018.
Yes, there is. We are no where near energy independence in 2018.
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