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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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BWillie 03:38 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
There’s a lot of wrong in this post. It’s estimated there are at least 200 viruses that cause the common cold. Of those only a few are known coronaviruses that affect people and they make up about 20-30% of cases.
That is correct. That is why I used the novel 2009 Swine Flu Virus as a baseline and not the other viruses that cause the common cold. The swine flu infected 61 million Americans in a one year period and it had a much lower R0 than Covid-19.
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DaFace 03:40 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
And are wages going to magically raise across the board for people to afford the goods that aren't as cheap as they once were?
There aren't easy answers, obviously, but there are options that could be considered. At a minimum, there will likely be some consideration of how existing U.S. manufacturing capacity could be quickly pivoted like Ford (and others) are saying they might be able to do for ventilators.

But I certainly am not claiming that it will be easy - only that it may be necessary.
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Discuss Thrower 03:42 PM 03-20-2020
Options that will be considered but ignored.
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DaFace 03:43 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by rockymountainchief:
Thought this might be of interest.

For the past five weeks, infectious disease researchers from institutions around the United States have been taking a survey that gathers their thoughts on the trajectory of the COVID-19 virus. The researchers come from academia, government and industry, and are experts in modeling the spread of viruses like this one:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...to-get-either/
Just quoting to emphasize that this is a good read.
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RINGLEADER 03:44 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by SupDock:
Notice how the CDC guidelines for PPE have changed. They changed from N95 masks for healthcare providers to surgical masks being acceptable. Look at the PPE in China vs the PPE being used here.
This is so true.

Italy just gave up and they’re working through it. Imagine the same thing will happen here with doctors and nurses going down for a week or two then coming back to work with immunity.

This is going to get so bad if the rate is slowed...
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oaklandhater 03:45 PM 03-20-2020

L.A. County gives up on containing coronavirus, tells doctors to skip testing of some patients https://t.co/T3szjlhMyp

— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) March 20, 2020


Testing in this country has been a fucking joke.
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BWillie 03:45 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by candyman:
I'm not saying you're full of shit, but when you post stuff like this please provide links.
Perhaps you misunderstood some of my post. I didn't say 90% of the population gets Covid-19 or will get it, I said the American population gets other types of non-covid19 coronaviruses at a rate of at least 90% each year. The reason I indicated that is because it spreads at a similar rate to the common cold.

As far as the R0 of Covid-19 it can be seen anywhere from 2.1 to 3.5+. https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/we...st-coronavirus

R0 of the swine flu is listed here at around 1.4. https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/we...st-coronavirus
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BWillie 03:46 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by oaklandhater:


Testing in this country has been a ****ing joke.
They did that in China, too. If they came in with certain lower respiratory symptoms, they stopped waiting for lengthy tests and just assumed they had it. Considering them a presumptive positive.
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Nickhead 03:48 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
If only there was an island full of convicts we could send them to.
not this time, all non residents/citizens are being escorted out of the building here :-)
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KChiefs1 03:49 PM 03-20-2020
Kansas has now surpassed Missouri in number of cases.
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DaneMcCloud 03:50 PM 03-20-2020
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...inment-testing

The guidance, sent by the Los Angeles County Department of Health Services to its doctors on Thursday, was prompted by a crush of patients and shortage of tests, and could make it difficult to ever know precisely how many people in L.A. County contracted the virus.

The guidance sets in writing what has been a reality all along.

The shortage of tests nationwide has meant that many patients suspected of having COVID-19 have not had the diagnosis confirmed by a laboratory.
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RINGLEADER 03:50 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by oaklandhater:


Testing in this country has been a ****ing joke.
The fact that there was not a plan in a drawer for how the government would respond if this happened is hard to believe.
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KChiefs1 03:51 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by oaklandhater:


Testing in this country has been a fucking joke.

Yet it has the lowest death rate.
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BWillie 03:52 PM 03-20-2020
This is not encouraging.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevorn.../#24d08a47e72e

Coronavirus Is Growing Faster In The United States Than Any Other Country In The World


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BIG_DADDY 03:56 PM 03-20-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...inment-testing

The guidance, sent by the Los Angeles County Department of Health Services to its doctors on Thursday, was prompted by a crush of patients and shortage of tests, and could make it difficult to ever know precisely how many people in L.A. County contracted the virus.

The guidance sets in writing what has been a reality all along.

The shortage of tests nationwide has meant that many patients suspected of having COVID-19 have not had the diagnosis confirmed by a laboratory.
Another stupid LA Times article. You will never know precisely how many people in the county contracted it when 80% have little to no symptoms. Duh

Not only that but I would imagine that most people unless they are on their death bed are not going to get tested.
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