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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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penguinz 08:38 AM 04-06-2020
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
I agree. A balanced plan factoring in everything including both health care and economics should have been in place. Hopefully we are better prepared if and when it happens again.
Unfortunately with the leadership in place, ALL parties, I do not seeing this happening.
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Donger 08:39 AM 04-06-2020
Originally Posted by penguinz:
Unfortunately with the leadership in place, ALL parties, I do not seeing this happening.
* Looks over to China and bushmeat consumption *
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O.city 08:41 AM 04-06-2020
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
That's probably years away. You are chasing unicorns there my man.
A vaccine probably is. Not knowledge and therapeutics of the virus and how to treat it

That’s what this was always about. Buy the medical community time to figure out what it is and how to treat it
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penguinz 08:41 AM 04-06-2020
Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED:
So are we still considering this a novel virus if we have a team of experts working on all these charts and stuff? I’m assuming with how much people are praising Fauci and his knowledge of the virus that it’s not considered novel anymore. Is that correct or is it just a huge contradiction to the English language?
A novel virus is one that has never been seen in humans before. Has nothing to do with how much knowledge there is about the virus, it will always be novel. Now if this strain mutates into a new virus it won't be novel as its origin in humans was already known.
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O.city 08:42 AM 04-06-2020
There’s some recent papers written that are starting to show some interesting stuff

Maybe this is more of a blood issue than a true respiratory one.
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RunKC 08:43 AM 04-06-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Even if you try to open it back up, if you can’t make people feel safe and that they aren’t at risk of infection it won’t really matter
We are in a tough spot until vaccine is released. Not sure what else we can do
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Monticore 08:44 AM 04-06-2020
Is it more likely this becomes seasonal the longer it progresses, if so stopping now would make it even more important.
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BigCatDaddy 08:45 AM 04-06-2020
Originally Posted by penguinz:
Unfortunately with the leadership in place, ALL parties, I do not seeing this happening.
It was a huge failure worldwide but I agree.
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O.city 08:46 AM 04-06-2020
Originally Posted by RunKC:
We are in a tough spot until vaccine is released. Not sure what else we can do
We’ll need a vaccine

But we can mitigate it until then. We’re smart enough
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BigCatDaddy 08:46 AM 04-06-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
A vaccine probably is. Not knowledge and therapeutics of the virus and how to treat it

That’s what this was always about. Buy the medical community time to figure out what it is and how to treat it
It doesn't matter. People will still have irrational fears for quite awhile.
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O.city 08:47 AM 04-06-2020
There’s got to be some type of innate immunity or something that’s throwing all the models off. They’re modeling it like it’s a novel virus and no one has any protection, which makes sense

But we just don’t know enough about it
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O.city 08:48 AM 04-06-2020
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
It doesn't matter. People will still have irrational fears for quite awhile.
Well when it effects those older and with underlying conditions like it does added to the fact that a whole shit ton of people in our country have underlying conditions (seriously it’s astonishing) they probably should be scared

It’s a shitty situation all around
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TLO 08:49 AM 04-06-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
There’s some recent papers written that are starting to show some interesting stuff

Maybe this is more of a blood issue than a true respiratory one.
How so?
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O.city 08:49 AM 04-06-2020
But if you can have an antiviral or an antibody treatment for it that can keep people from drowning in their own body fluids, people will feel more comfortable getting out there
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O.city 08:51 AM 04-06-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
How so?
Well, there’s some scant evidence that it’s attacking Heme molecules in blood ( I’m admittedly out over my skis here in reading some of these papers, they’re unreal and I’m just a damn dentist). So if I’m reading it right there is some thought that it actually inhibits our ability to load oxygen into our blood, not necessarily our ability to inhale oxygen

Again grain of salt
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