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Nzoner's Game Room>can we please stop talking about time of possession? Please?
Buehler445 04:10 PM 10-13-2019
Everyone is talking about time of possession. That is mind bogglingly stupid. Winning is about offensive and defensive efficiency. Scores and stops. It has nothing at all to do with time. If Mahomes scores in one play every possession that’s really efficient but won’t take up any time. Moreover if we take a 12 minute drive and fumble at the 2, that isn’t going to win any games but by god we’ll win the time of possession.

Fucking pussies like Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards talk about time of possession. Winners talk about scores and stops.
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Buehler445 04:29 PM 10-13-2019
Originally Posted by -King-:
The longer a team has the ball the more likely they are to score. The less a team has the ball, the less chances they have to score.

It's a pretty simple concept.
Are you fucking dense?

It’s about stops and scores. TOP is an effect of that. Maybe. Sometimes.

You know who won TOP a lot? Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards. Why don’t you go watch Arizona State.
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RaidersOftheCellar 04:30 PM 10-13-2019
If one team has the ball two-thirds of the game, chances are prettty high that they’ll score more points.
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chiefzilla1501 04:30 PM 10-13-2019
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
No. We lost because we couldn’t score efficiently enough to overcome our **** of a defense that was horribly inefficient.



Still about efficiency not time. If they were getting stops we win. They didn’t. We didn’t.


Effects not causes.

Pussies talk about shit that doesn’t matter like time of possession.

A lopsided TOP can possibly mean you can’t get stops. But in our case why not say it? We can’t stop anybody.
The defense not making stops is like a pin hitting a balloon. It takes our offense completely off rhythm. Id rather give up points quickly than take the ball out of mahomes hands. This isn't Alex Smith anymore where we are playing not to lose. Especially at home the defense failures is the biggest buzz kill to the crowd. I don't care about winning TOP. I care about our defense losing TOP repeatedly
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Buehler445 04:31 PM 10-13-2019
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
If one team has the ball two-thirds of the game, chances are prettty high that they’ll score more points.
Correlation not causation.

Pussies talk about shit that doesn’t matter. What lost the game is failure to get stops and scores.
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hawkchief 04:31 PM 10-13-2019
Seems like Beuhler doesn’t understand the game of football.
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lewdog 04:32 PM 10-13-2019
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Are you fucking dense?

It’s about stops and scores. TOP is an effect of that. Maybe. Sometimes.

You know who won TOP a lot? Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards. Why don’t you go watch Arizona State.
They are winning many more games than years past down here.

Just saying.
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Buehler445 04:33 PM 10-13-2019
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
The defense not making stops is like a pin hitting a balloon. It takes our offense completely off rhythm. Id rather give up points quickly than take the ball out of mahomes hands. This isn't Alex Smith anymore where we are playing not to lose. Especially at home the defense failures is the biggest buzz kill to the crowd. I don't care about winning TOP. I care about our defense losing TOP repeatedly
You said it here. You care about stops.

Stop focusing on TOP.

FFS dude we won a bunch of TOP games with Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards that we lost.
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lewdog 04:34 PM 10-13-2019
I don't think anyone is saying you need to win TOP to be a good football team but you can't be on the lopsided end of it either.

Being consistently low on TOP means your offense is relying on big plays for scores and cannot produce sustaining drives. Teams only relying on big plays for scores end up on the losing end of many close games.
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Buehler445 04:34 PM 10-13-2019
Originally Posted by lewdog:
They are winning many more games than years past down here.

Just saying.
I know this. But that’s OK. If he’s down there being a fucking twat he’s not on TV or radio making me fucking crazy.

And guess what. If theyre winning its because of scores and stops not buttfucking Time of Posession.
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Chiefshrink 04:35 PM 10-13-2019
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Everyone is talking about time of possession. That is mind bogglingly stupid. Winning is about offensive and defensive efficiency. Scores and stops. It has nothing at all to do with time. If Mahomes scores in one play every possession that’s really efficient but won’t take up any time. Moreover if we take a 12 minute drive and fumble at the 2, that isn’t going to win any games but by god we’ll win the time of possession.

****ing pussies like Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards talk about time of possession. Winners talk about scores and stops.
It's obvious you have never played the game or if you have it was must have not been past grade school. Not trying to :-) you here personally either BUT TOP is everything just like controlling the "boards" in basketball. It's about possession of the ball !! And the way you beat guys like Brady,Rogers,Manning,and the greats a la Mahomes is keeping them on the sideline pure and simple. And the way you do that is running the ball to burn the clock and scoring TDs the majority of the time so that it puts pressure on the opponents QB to be perfect in every possession which is almost impossible to do.
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Buehler445 04:35 PM 10-13-2019
But I’d bet Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards is still talking about it like the sisterfucker he is.
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WhiteWhale 04:35 PM 10-13-2019
Originally Posted by hawkchief:
Seems like Beuhler doesn’t understand the game of football.
He's right. TOP is a SYMPTOM of the problem, not THE problem.

Nobody wins games by holding the ball longer. IT's never been a thing. Points win games. Always have.

Drop back passing with no creativity at an 80% rate is not and never has been a path to success in the NFL. It's not the Big 12.
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kcclone 04:36 PM 10-13-2019
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Everyone is talking about time of possession. That is mind bogglingly stupid. Winning is about offensive and defensive efficiency. Scores and stops. It has nothing at all to do with time. If Mahomes scores in one play every possession that’s really efficient but won’t take up any time. Moreover if we take a 12 minute drive and fumble at the 2, that isn’t going to win any games but by god we’ll win the time of possession.

****ing pussies like Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards talk about time of possession. Winners talk about scores and stops.

You should lose posting privileges for a week, for an incredibly stupid football take.
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-King- 04:36 PM 10-13-2019
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Are you fucking dense?

It’s about stops and scores. TOP is an effect of that. Maybe. Sometimes.

You know who won TOP a lot? Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards. Why don’t you go watch Arizona State.
Are you really denying that having more TOP increases your chance of scoring and decreases the chances your opponent has of scoring?
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Buehler445 04:37 PM 10-13-2019
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink:
It's obvious you have never played the game or if you have it was must have not been past grade school. Not trying to :-) you here personally either BUT TOP is everything just like controlling the "boards" in basketball. It's about possession of the ball !! And the way you beat guys like Brady,Rogers,Manning,and the greats a la Mahomes is keeping them on the sideline pure and simple. And the way you do that is running the ball to burn the clock and scoring TDs the majority of the time so that it puts pressure on the opponents QB to be perfect in every possession which is almost impossible to do.
It’s obvious you’re too stupid to understand correlation vs causation.

If our coaches are going to turn this around they are going to have to quit fucking talk about time of possession and figure out how to get scores and stops.
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