Originally Posted by htismaqe:
While comparing picks is pointless, as has already been pointed out, this team really needs its 2nd round picks to contribute more, especially when he traded picks to get Speaks.
Speaks is definitely a disappointment at this point. That being said, he really hit on Tremon Smith IMHO and the trade for Ward looks like it might pay out.
Speaks just seems like the Dee Ford pick again. I mean I get it. Houston is our biggest cap anchor who turns 30 this month and Dee Ford has had questions about his health, plus his price tag combined with Houston’s potentially means one of these guys is out.
I think we’ll find more clarity on Speaks next year when he’s had a year to get his body ready. Interesting enough he is very similar body wise to Z’Darius Smith from then Ravens. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Speaks just seems like the Dee Ford pick again. I mean I get it. Houston is our biggest cap anchor who turns 30 this month and Dee Ford has had questions about his health, plus his price tag combined with Houston’s potentially means one of these guys is out.
I think we’ll find more clarity on Speaks next year when he’s had a year to get his body ready.
I get that but a 2nd round pick, especially one you targeted with multiple picks, shouldn't need a year to get his body ready.
As great as Ford is now, only hindsight suggests that was a good 1st round pick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Speaks just seems like the Dee Ford pick again. I mean I get it. Houston is our biggest cap anchor who turns 30 this month and Dee Ford has had questions about his health, plus his price tag combined with Houston’s potentially means one of these guys is out.
I think we’ll find more clarity on Speaks next year when he’s had a year to get his body ready. Interesting enough he is very similar body wise to Z’Darius Smith from then Ravens.
What potential do you see in Speaks? Even with an offseason of losing 20 pounds I still don't see him being wuick enough to be great at OLB. Add 20 pounds and I still don't see him as strong enough to hold up well at DL. He's a tweener that is fine as a 4th round pick. It's unfortunate we took him in the 2nd. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
After 1 year, I don't really know if you can defend or judge either way yet.
1.5 years and yea you can. You dont pay an injured player like Watkins that kind of money and hes found literally 0 talent in the secondary. How many years is it supposed to take a "stud" GM to find talent? [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
After 1 year, I don't really know if you can defend or judge either way yet.
As far as the draft goes, it's probably not fair considering the circumstances. There is room for improvement as far as his free agency signings, and that's about the nicest thing you can say. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
1.5 years and yea you can. You dont pay an injured player like Watkins that kind of money and hes found literally 0 talent in the secondary. How many years is it supposed to take a "stud" GM to find talent?
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Pointing out that Veach didn't have any first round picks while Dorsey had TWO isn't a "defense", it's a statement of fact.
Veach's issue has nothing to do with not having a 1, it's that he used high picks to draft guys that at best would see marginal playing time while having a dumpster fire of a secondary..
He also saw fit to pay Anthony Hitchens like a all pro. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Veach's issue has nothing to do with not having a 1, it's that he used high picks to draft guys that at best would see marginal playing time while having a dumpster fire of a secondary..
He also saw fit to pay Anthony Hitchens like a all pro.
It's also that he didn't really use a high pick because he didn't have one. [Reply]
