I have a problem, I want a second internet source in my apartment for work purposes. My new company monitors your internet traffic so I want to keep work and personal separate, can't have them knowing how much time I spend on CP! lol
Does not sound like a big problem, but its a harder problem than expected. Spectrum owns rights as a provider in my zip code, does not allow multiple router + modem options meaning you can't have 2 internet sources for a single apartment. No major wireless carrier (att, sprint, Verizon) can offer a truly unlimited plan for mifi device (none-phone hot spot box) that would allow me to work from home 5 days a week with multiple hours of video conferences per day. Verizon offers unlimited but only 20g of high speed before crawling to the slowest pace on the market, att only offers 35g then they charge you $10 per 2g above, forget t-mobile.
What to do? How to get reasonable, reliable, unlimited, worry-free, quality 2nd internet? [Reply]
I may be failing to see the issue but is your connection provided by your work? Or is it your private account? If it yours and they can somehow manage to track your usage then I agree with eDave and would get out of that situation.
I work from home on occasions and we are tracked but only when we are connected on a vpn and only for the device that is using the vpn. Basically they can only track my VPN connected devices to their network. They can't see what I am doing on my personal desktop, laptop or any other device. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TrebMaxx:
I may be failing to see the issue but is your connection provided by your work? Or is it your private account? If it yours and they can somehow manage to track your usage then I agree with eDave and would get out of that situation.
I work from home on occasions and we are tracked but only when we are connected on a vpn and only for the device that is using the vpn. Basically they can only track my VPN connected devices to their network. They can't see what I am doing on my personal desktop, laptop or any other device.
Great points. I'd say it breaks down like this:
- If you are at the office, then any device on THEIR network can be monitored (personal laptop, mobile phone using their WiFi, etc)
- If you are at home and your company provided you with a hardware router with a site to site VPN (unlikely) then you can be monitored
- If you are using the router provided by your Internet provider, then most likely your company is using a software VPN client that is installed on your business computer.
No matter what, you'll need to be using a separate computer for privacy. If you really, really want to play it safe, install your own software VPN using a provider like PureVPN, or TorGuard on your personal computer. That essentially encrypts your data and shields you from prying eyes. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
I don't know how, but had some really serious issues with prev company's invasive practices and would feel most comfortable with 100% separate hardware in the future.
Shocked in today's pandemic, remote work, video conf world there isn't a company advertising an unlimited mifi device w highspeed quality for your home office purposes. I can see the commercial now: visual is a frustrated dad with poor service bc 4 kids and wife online all at home, "what's a guy to do!?... Introducing WAMMO!!! Your private home device, VPN included."
While I agree with you that acquiring a secondary internet circuit should be easier, I find your paranoia unfounded - speaking strictly from a technical perspective. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
I don't know how, but had some really serious issues with prev company's invasive practices and would feel most comfortable with 100% separate hardware in the future.
Shocked in today's pandemic, remote work, video conf world there isn't a company advertising an unlimited mifi device w highspeed quality for your home office purposes. I can see the commercial now: visual is a frustrated dad with poor service bc 4 kids and wife online all at home, "what's a guy to do!?... Introducing WAMMO!!! Your private home device, VPN included."
Look, man. If you plug your own PC or laptop into your internet router, your employer will have zero visibility. I feel like you're misunderstanding some basic physics here. If you use the laptop they gave you they can see what you do, even though it's 99% chance they don't care. But a PC you own plugged into your internet is beyond anything they can see. Now, your internet service provider can still see what you visit, but assuming you aren't doing anything illegal that shouldn't matter. [Reply]
Just wrap your laptop in tinfoil. It will also prevent aliens dromedary reading your emails as well as keep your employer’s snooping eyes away. [Reply]
I appreciate the reassurance, but I know for certain my previous organization was capable of monitoring my network, they did not provide the modem/router but paid for it, had language in the contract stating you would have zero privacy. How do I know they had this capability? Bc my manager would literally call you out for playing games on xbox, for watching inappropriate material on a personal computer, or submitting your resume to another employer just moments after you did so in an effort to intimidate you. You can't quit if you're broke and rely on them for money. I am pretty much a layman when it comes to IT but work for highly sophisticated organizations, I've seen and experienced other IT magic that you would not believe. The kind of companies making more annual revenue than most countries and consider themselves above the law. I understand VPNs and how they work, I have one for my personal devices. However, due to issues I had at my previous employer, I am highly sensitive and sure, even paranoid, in regards to these matters & would feel most comfortable with 2 entirely different internet sources.
You see, it's not all about "physics" for me, there's a psychological and emotional component as well, and I am just asking for answers specific to my question = "how best to get 2 internets in the same house efficiently?"
...Does anyone have a suggestion for a mifi hotspot with a legit unlimited plan, maybe for business instead of a personal account? [Reply]
Originally Posted by stanleychief:
Great points. I'd say it breaks down like this:
- If you are at the office, then any device on THEIR network can be monitored (personal laptop, mobile phone using their WiFi, etc)
- If you are at home and your company provided you with a hardware router with a site to site VPN (unlikely) then you can be monitored
- If you are using the router provided by your Internet provider, then most likely your company is using a software VPN client that is installed on your business computer.
No matter what, you'll need to be using a separate computer for privacy. If you really, really want to play it safe, install your own software VPN using a provider like PureVPN, or TorGuard on your personal computer. That essentially encrypts your data and shields you from prying eyes.
Correct, all of the above already in place. The ask here is to go one step further and find a way to add a separate internet efficiency for peace of mind. [Reply]
I appreciate the reassurance, but I know for certain my previous organization was capable of monitoring my network, they did not provide the modem/router but paid for it, had language in the contract stating you would have zero privacy. How do I know they had this capability? Bc my manager would literally call you out for playing games on xbox, for watching inappropriate material on a personal computer, or submitting your resume to another employer just moments after you did so in an effort to intimidate you. You can't quit if your broke and rely on them for money. I am pretty much a layman when it comes to IT but work for highly sophisticated organizations, I've seen and experienced other IT magic that you would not believe. The kind of companies making more annual revenue than most countries and consider themselves above the law. I understand VPNs and how they work, I have one for my personal devices. However, due to issues I had at my previous employer, I am highly sensitive and sure, even paranoid, in regards to these matters & would feel most comfortable with 2 entirely different internet sources.
You see, it's not all about "physics" for me, there's a psychological and emotional component as well, and I am just asking for answers specific to my question = "how best to get 2 internets in the same house efficiently?"
...Does anyone have a suggestion for a mifi hotspot with a legit unlimited plan, maybe for business instead of a personal account?
No offense, but yeah you're being really paranoid. They wouldn't really be capable of doing any of the stuff you're worrying about. It is all about the physical capabilities of the technology. It's just not really possible. "Psychological and emotion component" = "Paranoia"
Regardless, your options would probably be limited to satellite internet or a mobile hotspot via your phone provider. [Reply]
If you are in an apartment but can only run one line to your place, why don't you just tell your neighbor that you will pay for his/her internet on the condition that you can piggyback on their wifi network? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Fish:
No offense, but yeah you're being really paranoid. They wouldn't really be capable of doing any of the stuff you're worrying about. It is all about the physical capabilities of the technology. It's just not really possible. "Psychological and emotion component" = "Paranoia"
Regardless, your options would probably be limited to satellite internet or a mobile hotspot via your phone provider.
I second this. I don't know who you use to work for but unless they owned your internet provider or was the nsa. There is no way they tracked your personal internet unless they hacked your router.
They probably had software on your work computer. They could run a wire shark program to monitor your network traffic. The amount of effort and time to do this would not be worth it as a company stand point. If you are that paranoid get a managed switch and vlan your personal traffic and work traffic.
Even if your company was monitoring your traffic from your work computer. They would not be able to see any traffic from your personal VLAN. [Reply]