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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

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Monticore 05:32 PM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
In other news - according to Worldomoters, it looks very possible that web may come in with a lower death total as opposed to yesterday.
Canada hit his highest total in deaths today but i think we are a week behind you guys
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'Hamas' Jenkins 05:32 PM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
I've been "advised" every year to get the Seasonal Influenza Vaccine and I've never, ever taken it, although my wife and children do get it every year.

Also, the Seasonal Influenza Vaccine is only about 45% effective and in some years, it's quite a bit lower.

I think the idea of exposure and immunity sound fantastic in theory but it's also just as difficult for me to believe that to be true.
Everyone: get your flu shot. Even if it doesn't offer full protection, it reduces the severity of illness.
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TLO 05:33 PM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by stumppy:
Looks like they only have two new deaths. Probably different update times.

Looks like we're still a few weeks out from predicted peak.
I was discussing this earlier, but Worldomoters, John Hopkins, and Covidly all have different numbers than Missouri's "official" total. I don't know how long there has been a discrepancy, but I'm assuming it has been there for a while. I only noticed it yesterday.
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TLO 05:34 PM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Everyone: get your flu shot. Even if it doesn't offer full protection, it reduces the severity of illness.
But one time I got the flu shot and then I got the flu!!!! Never again!!
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candyman 05:39 PM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Why?
Because stress-induced heart attacks and suicides will end up killing just as many people as COVID-19
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DaneMcCloud 05:44 PM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Everyone: get your flu shot. Even if it doesn't offer full protection, it reduces the severity of illness.
This.

I wasn't advocating that people should avoid the flu shot, just that I've never needed it personally.

Also, immediate family members always seem to get sick after the shot, so that's not very encouraging, either.
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2112 05:52 PM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
This.

I wasn't advocating that people should avoid the flu shot, just that I've never needed it personally.

Also, immediate family members always seem to get sick after the shot, so that's not very encouraging, either.
I have never had a flu shot. But I remember when I was a kid I was getting all kinds of shots in school. They had the air gun back then too. And I had the TB prick. They still do that with kids? Or do they go to the doctor for that shit?

Bottom line I got the flu once (10 years ago) from a 5 year old kid lol it kicked my ass for almost a month. And I lost 20lbs
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wazu 05:54 PM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Why?
Perspective. There are two sides to the equation. The complete destruction of civilization in the form of a new Great Depression is a heavy price to pay. Want it to be visible like the sickness/death stats are.
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Titty Meat 05:56 PM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by wazu:
Perspective. There are two sides to the equation. The complete destruction of civilization in the form of a new Great Depression is a heavy price to pay. Want it to be visible like the sickness/death stats are.
I think it's a false choice
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wazu 05:58 PM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
I think it's a false choice
It isn't necessarily one or the other. There are degrees, and balance to be found. If the only goal is "absolute fewest people sick", then we're fucked.
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BigRedChief 06:00 PM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Everyone: get your flu shot. Even if it doesn't offer full protection, it reduces the severity of illness.
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
This.

I wasn't advocating that people should avoid the flu shot, just that I've never needed it personally
agreed. Everyone should get the flu shot as a preventive measure.
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mlyonsd 06:01 PM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Everyone: get your flu shot. Even if it doesn't offer full protection, it reduces the severity of illness.
Heh, I used to get the shot every year. The one year I skipped I got the flu and spent 7 days in hell. Never again will I miss one.
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BigRedChief 06:06 PM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by wazu:
Perspective. There are two sides to the equation. The complete destruction of civilization in the form of a new Great Depression is a heavy price to pay. Want it to be visible like the sickness/death stats are.
complete destruction of civilization? I’m thinking there is some solution between what we are doing and that hyperbole remark.

.@NYGovCuomo: "You want to have reckless disregard for your life? It's not about your life. It's about the health care worker who'll have to treat you in the emergency room. It's about the vulnerable person who you infect, who you could kill... Sometimes it is not about you."

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) April 9, 2020

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ghak99 06:06 PM 04-09-2020
I don't want to sound like a broken record, but I know you old farts like to BBQ.

Two more cow kill plants, think hamburger, announced short term closures today and two more regular plants have so many people calling in sick they will likely do the same soon.

If taking a three day break and testing doesn't slow it down they're considering a two week shutdown. They are not releasing current bids on fats at all, which tells me they are cleaning up inventory and preparing for the worst. That might be significant in parts of the midwest as there is generally not enough in cold storage to bridge that gap.
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Baby Lee 06:07 PM 04-09-2020
Originally Posted by wazu:
I really wish that every place showing these stats would also show the number of new jobless claims.
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Why?
Originally Posted by wazu:
Perspective. There are two sides to the equation. The complete destruction of civilization in the form of a new Great Depression is a heavy price to pay. Want it to be visible like the sickness/death stats are.
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
I think it's a false choice
Originally Posted by wazu:
It isn't necessarily one or the other. There are degrees, and balance to be found. If the only goal is "absolute fewest people sick", then we're fucked.
Gosh, if only there were some mechanism in society to advocate and mediate differences such as this. . . . :-)

:-) :-)
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