As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad."
I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later.
So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine:
Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass.
Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days.
Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off.
I'm watching right now, this Bingo part with all of the B's had me cracking up, but awaiting with anticipation that shit is about to hit the fan. [Reply]
As someone with an interest in coins, I have a pressing question from last night's episode: Where did the Kennedy half dollar come from that Saul/Jimmy used in the bar scam?
Did he just receive it in change after paying his tab? If so, :-)
Half dollars in circulation are pretty rare in general, but that was a 1964 Kennedy--the last circulated US coin made in 90% silver--(Kennedys from 1965-1969 are 40% silver). Over the years, just the silver content alone of that coin has ranged from $5-$20, so, they were picked from circulation long ago. Can't say it is impossible, but finding one in circulation astoundingly unlikely.
Anyway, Jimmy's story about it being a rare version isn't true of course, but it isn't completely off-base. The Kennedy half was rushed into production after his assassination (it replaced the Benjamin Franklin half, not a Lincoln as Jimmy said). After an initial batch was made, the story is that Jackie Kennedy didn't like how the profile looked. Some cosmetic changes were made, but the original coins were released--maybe 100,000 of them of the 500M minted. Collectors can tell the difference by the smoother hair lines. One in great condition could be worth several hundred, maybe $1000. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
I actually found that episode to be the worst of the season. It wasn't bad writ large (it was comparatively, though), just protracted and predictable.
Yeah I kind of agree, but, it will lead us to an interesting Season 2. [Reply]
Main character is a puppy, pining eternally for big brother's love.
But big brother doesn't respect him, and this devastates Main character, so now he's a sad sack loser.
The End.
Awesome Story Bro.
Jimmy doesn't give a SHIT if big bro believes in him. He's not devastated by any of this. It's been a bummer, but it has liberated him from from his prior role of ****-up little bro who needs guidance, allowing him to decide for himself his own code.
I completely disagree. I don't see that at all. Jimmy is deeply hurt by what Chuck thinks of him. It's less about him needing guidance, but more about wanting his big brother's approval who clearly has never approved of his lifestyle. His brother's disapproval just makes him mad, and want to rebel, leading into the life of slipping Jimmy all over again. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
I completely disagree. I don't see that at all. Jimmy is deeply hurt by what Chuck thinks of him. It's less about him needing guidance, but more about wanting his big brother's approval who clearly has never approved of his lifestyle. His brother's disapproval just makes him mad, and want to rebel, leading into the life of slipping Jimmy all over again.
I'm not sure that is 'complete disagreement'
I'm not arguing that Chuck's shitty standards didn't sting Jimmy, just that it didn't destroy him, leaving only a husk behind.
The point is he has now gotten beyond needing external approval. He's not rebelling, or trying to prove himself worthy by alternative means. He's through giving a shit what 'they' think. [Reply]
Originally Posted by :
GOULD: He’s definitely not going to proceed as he has. That is true. I think the end of the season definitely portends some big changes for this guy. His brother stabbed him in the back and lied about it and Chuck, although he’s perfectly law abiding, does something that in Jimmy’s eyes and maybe mine too is really rather despicable. That has shaken his world. It’s turned him upside down.
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“Without a doubt, he … broke bad,” co-creator Peter Gould told TheWrap in an interview on Monday. “Jimmy McGill … reverted to his old life as Slippin’ Jimmy.” The Bob Odenkirk character’s brother Chuck (Michael McKean) backstabbing the protagonist was the catalyst that “really changed [Jimmy’s] outlook on life,” Gould explained of the switcheroo. But when old friend and scam partner Marco (Mel Rodriguez) kicked the bucket mid-swindle, something more permanent clicked inside of the future Saul Goodman.
some interesting convo in here about whether he's crushed or just doesn't give a shit.
I think it's both. at first he was crushed.....then came to an acceptance.....then moved on. unfortunately in the interest of time I don't think it played very well in 45 minutes of television. in the real world it WOULD take time to digest.....be ****ING PISSED OFFFFF.....for a while actually.....and then get to acceptance (Jimmy shrugs and says "my brother thinks I'm scum and I've realized nothing I can do will ever change that)....and then move past it. but in TV world they don't wanna use 2 or 3 episodes for this transition.
before watching the latest episode I went back and watched the Chuck/Jimmy exchange where Jimmy called him out. amazing scene. as soon as Chuck realized Jimmy knew....his facial expression changed to one of.....ugh....just....it just repulsed me. arrogant. mean. almost evil.
**** you chuck! :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by frankotank:
some interesting convo in here about whether he's crushed or just doesn't give a shit.
I think it's both. at first he was crushed.....then came to an acceptance.....then moved on. unfortunately in the interest of time I don't think it played very well in 45 minutes of television. in the real world it WOULD take time to digest.....be ****ING PISSED OFFFFF.....for a while actually.....and then get to acceptance (Jimmy shrugs and says "my brother thinks I'm scum and I've realized nothing I can do will ever change that)....and then move past it. but in TV world they don't wanna use 2 or 3 episodes for this transition.
before watching the latest episode I went back and watched the Chuck/Jimmy exchange where Jimmy called him out. amazing scene. as soon as Chuck realized Jimmy knew....his facial expression changed to one of.....ugh....just....it just repulsed me. arrogant. mean. almost evil.
**** you chuck! :-)
