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Nzoner's Game Room>How does our Defense personnel adjust to stop Henry?
chiefzilla1501 02:09 PM 01-14-2020
What adjustments do we make to stop Henry? Even with a healthy Chris jones, we would want a heavier dose of Saunders, Pennel, and suggs anyway, right? Probably see Ragland in on a lot more snaps?
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The Franchise 05:55 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
Good point but if Henry is having a lot of success Titans will look to use that clock and limit our offenses opportunities to score. We're going to have to stop him at least a little.
The Patriots lost because they didn’t have the offense. Henry went off.

The Ravens had 90 fucking offensive plays and won the TOP....and lost.

Henry only matters if he’s breaking TD runs on every drive. The Titans offense can’t out score ours. They didn’t outscore us last time. They got a defensive TD and we fucked up two FGs.
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TurdsMckenzie 05:55 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
You're looking at this the wrong way. What Derrick Henry does really doesn't matter.

We're the team that needs to be stopped....

So the question is two-fold: how do they hold us under 40 points (answer: they probably don't) and how do they keep up with us if they can't.

We're not the Patriots, who did nothing on offense the entire season. And we're not the Ravens, with a run-oriented scheme that fell apart whenever they got behind.

We didn't lose the first game because Henry ran for 180 yards. We lost because of a special teams mistake and a fluke fumble return. We beat ourselves, much like the first quarter Sunday.

That's not to say we can't or won't stop Henry, but it ultimately doesn't matter as much as simply playing with focus in all three phases and eliminating mistakes. At the end of the day he could go for 200 yards and they could hold the ball for 40 minutes and we could still blow them out.

What they saw us do Sunday had to terrify them, whether they acknowledge it consciously or not.
Watching what Ravens and Patriots did all season didn't terrify them.



The truth to stopping Henry... Hit him in the backfield. If he is to the line if scrimmage you can just chalk up 5 yards. Or 50 yards. Bring him down before he can run through you or you aren't bringing him down.
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MGRS13 05:57 PM 01-14-2020
The chiefs offense has to be the defense. Look the titans are good, but they’ve been able to play their game against all of their opponents for a couple months. The chiefs just have to score early and often. Turn it into a shootout and take TENNESSEE out of their safe place. Dictate the game to them. That’s the best defense. Force Tannehill to hurry up get out of his comfort zone and make mistakes.
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TurdsMckenzie 05:57 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
The Patriots lost because they didn’t have the offense. Henry went off.

The Ravens had 90 ****ing offensive plays and won the TOP....and lost.

Henry only matters if he’s breaking TD runs on every drive. The Titans offense can’t out score ours. They didn’t outscore us last time. They got a defensive TD and we ****ed up two FGs.
Tannehill tears up the red zone. The Titans score tds if they get in the red zone
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ModSocks 05:58 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie:
Watching what Ravens and Patriots did all season didn't terrify them.


Wtf did the Patriots do all season? And the Ravens can't throw the ball, Jackson hype be damned.
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The Franchise 06:01 PM 01-14-2020
The Titans have faced 6 QBs who posted 4000 yards passing. During those games they gave up an average of 323 yards per game. 14% more than the lowest ranked passing defense in the league.
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TurdsMckenzie 06:04 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Wtf did the Patriots do all season? And the Ravens can't throw the ball, Jackson hype be damned.
They had to lose for Chiefs to be seeded higher in the final week with the exact same record.

What did Chiefs do all season besides finish with same record as Patriots and also lose to Titans?
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keg in kc 06:04 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie:
Watching what Ravens and Patriots did all season didn't terrify them..
Not sure what your point is supposed to be. The Patriots were a bad team that played a schedule full of awful teams, and the Ravens were riding a gimmick that we provided the blueprint to beat four months ago. Nobody should have been the least bit scared by either one. Whereas we have the best quarterback in the NFL with the best array of weapons in the NFL and we just scored 51 points in 3/4 of a playoff game, albeit against what I believe was the worst defense in the postseason.

And now we're going up against the second worst defense in the postseason, a Titans team that gave up 450 yards of passing and 30+ points on their home field the last time we played. But all anybody seems to want to talk about is Derrick Henry.
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ThyKingdomCome15 06:11 PM 01-14-2020
Make them beat you with someone not named Henry and see what they come up with.
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dlphg9 06:12 PM 01-14-2020
Im more confident about this game than I was about last week and I knew the Texans didnt have a chance. I dont give a shit about your running back, because we have Patrick Mahomes and the Titans have Ryan fucking Tannehill. RBs are about the least important position on the field. Henry is averaging over 200 total yards a game in the postseason which has amounted fo 24 ppg for the Titans. The Chiefs have scored less than 24 points only 3 times. Derrick Henry isn't the reason the Titans have won both playoff games, its because Tom Brady is washed up and Lamar Jackson shit the bed when it mattered. So let Derrick Henry run his way to 200 yards and let the Titans score there 24 points, because we have Patrick Mahomes and we will score 40. They can even have the ball for 35 minutes, because TOP doesn't matter and we scored 51 points in 25 minutes. Im tired of hearing about Derrick Henry.
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TurdsMckenzie 06:14 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
Not sure what your point is supposed to be. The Patriots were a bad team that played a schedule full of awful teams, and the Ravens were riding a gimmick that we provided the blueprint to beat four months ago. Nobody should have been the least bit scared by either one. Whereas we have the best quarterback in the NFL with the best array of weapons in the NFL and we just scored 51 points in 3/4 of a playoff game, albeit against what I believe was the worst defense in the postseason.

And now we're going up against the second worst defense in the postseason, a Titans team that gave up 450 yards of passing and 30+ points on their home field the last time we played. But all anybody seems to want to talk about is Derrick Henry.
My point is that somebody is calling Titans scared. Other people pointing out meaningless stats. Titans don't care.
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tmax63 06:17 PM 01-14-2020
What the Chiefs need to do to beat the Tits is something they had problems with early in the year. GAP DISCIPLINE. They've done better the 2nd half of the year but they need to do it well Sunday. You plug up the gaps and make Henry go east/west until the cavalry can arrive and gang tackle. Big bodies in the middle that hold their ground against a good Tennessee O-line. Nothing fancy, DL just got to sack up and do it.
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dlphg9 06:17 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie:
They had to lose for Chiefs to be seeded higher in the final week with the exact same record.

What did Chiefs do all season besides finish with same record as Patriots and also lose to Titans?
Good God stop beating off to pics of your mom and put a little more thought into your posts, so you don't sound like a middle schooler arguing for the first time.
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ModSocks 06:19 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by TurdsMckenzie:
They had to lose for Chiefs to be seeded higher in the final week with the exact same record.

What did Chiefs do all season besides finish with same record as Patriots and also lose to Titans?
What a stupid fucking take :-)
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Megatron96 06:19 PM 01-14-2020
Guys, go and check out the play-by-play of the first HOU vs TEN game this year. Texans won 24-21, btw.

Check out how that game unfolded.

Henry ran 21 times for 88 yards, but as a team TEN ran for 166 yards, so they established their run game.

Watson had a respectable game, but screwed the team over by throwing two INTs.

But they scored 2 TDs in the first half and led 14-0 coming out of the half.

It took TEN 9 minutes and 16 plays to score their first TD. Run, run, pass. Run, run, pass . . .

But it eats up the entire 3rd quarter.

Then HOU goes on a long drive and scores another TD eating up 3 minutes. Up 21-7.

And then TEN goes on another long drive for a TD that takes 5 or so minutes. Still down by a TD and more than half-way thru the 4th, I think.

And then HOU goes on another long drive TD.

And so on.

My point is, at the end of the game, when TEN needed to score fast to have a chance to even tie, they couldn't do it. That grind-it-out heavy-run game is also their anchor. They can't score fast. They literally ran out of time because they took so much time to score on each drive. They ate up their own chance to get the ball back and tie.

Even against the worst scoring defense in the playoffs TEN couldn't score quickly.

Think about that.

Andy and Pat know this. They're going to score fast out of the gate; they aren't going to try to eat up clock in the first half. They're going to drop bombs on TEN and force them to try and score fast. Which they can't do.

I don't think we try to stop Henry completely. Just defend the big play, period. Let them grind up the clock. We already know that they only score about 33% of their possessions. Keep their receivers in front, double their best WR, and let Henry run for 5 yard a carry. 7 times out of 10 possessions they end up punting anyway.
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