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Nzoner's Game Room>Realistic expectations for Patrick Mahomes
TimBone 04:51 PM 04-21-2018
I know in the hearts of every planeteer, Mahomes has already led us to multiple Super Bowls, and that this whole career thing is just a formality before his HOF induction ceremony, but what is everyone realistically looking for from him this season?

Maybe I'm just letting my battered fan syndrome take over, but I feel like we need to pump the brakes a little bit. He looked solid against Denver, sure, but he's still just a second year guy that was pretty raw coming out of college.

So, what kind of numbers would everyone be happy with? What kind of things will you all be personally looking for from him?

Lastly, if you think I'm being a pussy and need to shut up and buckle up for the Mahomes show, please hit me with your best neg rep. The funnier the better.
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AssEaterChief 05:31 PM 04-21-2018
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Mahomes isn't a rookie. He's a 2nd year player. First year starters who struggle are usually rookies.
:-):-):-):-):-)


He played in ONE game!!!!!

What are you smoking
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ModSocks 05:35 PM 04-21-2018
4K yards, no doubt. TD's/Ints? I'm not so certain. But 4K yards for sure.
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Nickhead 05:38 PM 04-21-2018
i expect numbers slightly better than the previous years starter. maybe a couple more int's, but pats 44/10 ratio suggests he's not as reckless as some say?

more than 4000 yards passing without a doubt though. i see kc relying on the run game heavily to set up play action more, at least to start the year. :-)
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RealSNR 05:48 PM 04-21-2018
Originally Posted by AssEaterChief:
:-):-):-):-):-)





He played in ONE game!!!!!



What are you smoking

What's wrong about what I said? Did Rivers play like a rookie in his first year as a starter? Carson Palmer? Aaron Rodgers?

Maybe if you smoked something you might be better at concentrating on reading.

A year or more on the bench can be huge for a young QB, particularly a QB in a stable coaching environment with a decent supporting cast
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Easy 6 05:48 PM 04-21-2018
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
He's done the same things at every level so far. I think it will continue. Only with much better skill players.


He's going to blow this mother ****er apart
Thats where I'm at, theres no need to put a number on it... I just believe the kid is gonna sizzle, sundays are about to become incredibly entertaining IMO
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Coochie liquor 05:57 PM 04-21-2018
I don’t know what to expect. We’ve never been in this position during my fandom. I’m just excited about the ride!!
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Otter 05:59 PM 04-21-2018
I don't know. If any of us did we would hopping on a plane to Vegas, bet accordingly and become millionaires in December.

The kid has all the physical tools and the personality to compliment the aforementioned. I'm as happy as a clam he's going to be starting and given the chance to take over the Chiefs and possibly become a star in the NFL that gets the calls because he draws in the fans and $$$.

All I ask in return for my 20 years of fandom is diplomatic immunity to punch band wagon fans in the face and that he tighten up that haircut dammit!!!

:-)

Actually, he can keep the haircut if he pulls off the rest of the deal.
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Easy 6 06:07 PM 04-21-2018
Originally Posted by AssEaterChief:
:-):-):-):-):-)


He played in ONE game!!!!!

What are you smoking
I think SNR is right that you're discounting just how important that redshirt year was, it really helped him apply a layer a polish... and it showed in week 17

I was sooo against him starting there, sooo worried something would go bad with our backup O line and skill players... psshh, boy was I wrong

His first NFL start was on the road, against our most bitter rivals and their very good defense... and all he did was pull off a comeback win, if that doesnt bode well I dont know what does
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CoMoChief 06:08 PM 04-21-2018
4000yds, 26/14

Although he may exceed this because I have a feeling the Chiefs are going to be in some track meets this season.

Good chance the D isn't going to be able to stop shit this first yr of the Mahomes era.
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AssEaterChief 06:09 PM 04-21-2018
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
I think SNR is right that you're discounting just how important that redshirt year was, it really helped him apply a layer a polish... and it showed in week 17

I was sooo against him starting there, sooo worried something would go bad... psshh, boy was I wrong

His first NFL start was on the road, against our most bitter rivals and their very good defense... and all he did was pull off a comeback win, if that doesnt bode well I dont know what does
Lets hope

Don't get me wrong, of course I liked what I saw....I think we all did.
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WhiteWhale 06:13 PM 04-21-2018
Here's what I expect.

Over 3,500 yards.

Over 20 TD's.

Under 20 interceptions

over 7.2 yards per attempt.

10 or more wins.

Honestly, I think he'll exceed most of those numbers. In my mind, that's sandbagging. Maybe I'm overhyped, but I don't think so.

I honestly can't think of the last time a first year starter was in such an ideal situation.
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Fat Elvis 06:22 PM 04-21-2018
Realistically?

Assuming he stays healthy, I expect Mahomes to top 5,000 passing yards.

In his first start, playing with scrubs against one of the best pass D's in the NFL, he put up 284 yards. Assuming that is an average game for him, he is already at 4,544 yards for the season. With scrubs. Against a good pass D.

To top 5,000 yards in a 16 game season, he would have to average 312 passing yards per game.

The question you have to ask yourself is whether or not you believe that Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, Travis Kelce, and Kareem Hunt can contribute another 28 yards per game, on average, against typically lesser defenses.

Another way to think about it: Do you think that Mahomes, with those tools, can average about 26 passing yards per possession over the course of a season? Considering that he (so far) averages 8.11 yards per attempt, I think that over the course of a season, he can hit that mark with relative ease.
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Reerun_KC 06:23 PM 04-21-2018
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
I expect him to do some amazing things. Like other worldly shit that mere mortals can’t even dream of.

I also expect some really bad INTs and miss some easy throws. If he does take some of the check downs Alex threw he will miss some because his feet aren’t as good as Alex’s.

I then expect a bunch of asshats to melt down about it.

Fuck Alex smith and the wasted years of him being a chief.
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RealSNR 06:28 PM 04-21-2018
I didn't realize this, but Derek Carr has never topped 4000 yards in a season.

It will be even more impressive when Mahomes does crack that number.
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Shag 04-21-2018, 06:29 PM
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AssEaterChief 06:30 PM 04-21-2018
Originally Posted by Shag:
You realize surpassing 5k yards has only been done 9 times in the history of the NFL, right?
:-)

I have a bad feeling this thread is going to get bumped next January for all the wrong reasons...
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