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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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IA_Chiefs_fan 09:34 AM 02-23-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
As a marketing professional this marketing sucks.
Agreed. I just don't get it. Give people hope and a reason to get the vaccine.
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Marcellus 09:37 AM 02-23-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
As a marketing professional this marketing sucks.

If you didn't know better you would think they were trying to discourage people from getting vaccinated. This shit makes no sense no matter how you try to spin it otherwise.

Its like telling your kids to do their homework but they are still grounded anyway.
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Chiefnj2 09:38 AM 02-23-2021
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Effectiveness rates are a measure of how well they PREVENT the outcome, not a measure of how many people will experience the outcome with the vaccine. It becomes clear that your interpretation is wrong if you use the lower effectiveness of the J&J vaccine. If it prevents 70% of infections (or whatever their final number is), does that mean that 30% of people will get it with the vaccine when non vaccinated infection rates are much lower than that? Obviously not.

In this case, the vaccine drops chances of death overall by 100x compared to those who aren't vaccinated. You can't really compare it to a CFR (since that assumes people are infected in the first place), but it's kind like dropping the CFR to 0.019%.
I’m not sure that is correct.


“According to the same report, the vaccine is up to 99.2 percent effective in preventing serious illness. 98.9 percent of patients followed did not need to be hospitalized.

The epidemiology unit at the Health Ministry collects data at two points: one week after the second dose and a week after that. According to the data, after one week, the vaccine is 91.9 percent effective in preventing the illness altogether. After two weeks, it jumps to 95.8 percent.”

It doesn’t seem to compare the numbers to non-vaccinated individuals.
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O.city 10:29 AM 02-23-2021
Go get the vaccine and give it time to do what it does. Then go back to normal life.

There's your PR.
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BigCatDaddy 10:33 AM 02-23-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
Go get the vaccine and give it time to do what it does. Then go back to normal life.

There's your PR.
Too simple. We need a more complex formula that varys from state to state.
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IA_Chiefs_fan 10:36 AM 02-23-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
Go get the vaccine and give it time to do what it does. Then go back to normal life.

There's your PR.
Bingo! We have a winner.
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loochy 11:34 AM 02-23-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Once you’ve gotten any COVID-19 vaccine, you still need to wear a mask,
nope
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
get tested,
nope
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
and watch your distance.
nope
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Isolate if you have tested positive/have symptoms
nope
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
, and quarantine if you are a close contact
nope
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
or have traveled to another state or country.
nope
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:


Visit https://t.co/74RKEJYTOU. pic.twitter.com/czv1jYpbqa
— Rhode Island Department of Health (@RIHEALTH) February 23, 2021

FU. I will most assuredly not be visiting Rhode Island.
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DaFace 11:35 AM 02-23-2021
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2:
I’m not sure that is correct.


“According to the same report, the vaccine is up to 99.2 percent effective in preventing serious illness. 98.9 percent of patients followed did not need to be hospitalized.

The epidemiology unit at the Health Ministry collects data at two points: one week after the second dose and a week after that. According to the data, after one week, the vaccine is 91.9 percent effective in preventing the illness altogether. After two weeks, it jumps to 95.8 percent.”

It doesn’t seem to compare the numbers to non-vaccinated individuals.
That's the definition of effectiveness rates.
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Chief Roundup 12:22 PM 02-23-2021
Originally Posted by loochy:
nopenopenopenopenopenope

FU. I will most assuredly not be visiting Rhode Island.
You and all the others better get used to Yes to all of those at least depending on where you work and or live.
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loochy 12:38 PM 02-23-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
You and all the others better get used to Yes to all of those at least depending on where you work and or live.

nope
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louie aguiar 12:45 PM 02-23-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
You and all the others better get used to Yes to all of those at least depending on where you work and or live.
why?
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Marcellus 12:46 PM 02-23-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
You and all the others better get used to Yes to all of those at least depending on where you work and or live.
Then you might want to get used to the idea that vaccinations rates wont be nearly as high as they should be.
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BigCatDaddy 01:35 PM 02-23-2021
Originally Posted by louie aguiar:
why?
Yeah. I'm pretty much out on all those these days. Quit wearing a mask as well and nobody says shit. See more and more doing the same.
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loochy 01:53 PM 02-23-2021
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Yeah. I'm pretty much out on all those these days. Quit wearing a mask as well and nobody says shit. See more and more doing the same.

yeah but the rules!




and literally killing people literally!
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Chief Roundup 01:54 PM 02-23-2021
Because the federal government and health officials think that is what needs to happen. Just like now and up to this point in time some states have been following others are doing what they think is right. It will be no different going forward.
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