Forgot to note from my prior post- no way the Cards get Donaldson even if we want him. Someone below the waiver wire will surely put in a claim to block at this late stage in the game. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marco Polo:
Forgot to note from my prior post- no way the Cards get Donaldson even if we want him. Someone below the waiver wire will surely put in a claim to block at this late stage in the game.
Again - McCutchen went unclaimed while healthy, more productive and cheaper this season.
I'd be surprised if anyone puts a claim in on Donaldson. I'm not even 100% sure the Cardinals will; I think they may see if he clears and try to engineer a trade.
$4.5 million for Josh Donaldson and his limp for 5 weeks isn't exactly a bargain. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marco Polo:
Just read we are going against Scherzer on Monday- the game I'm planning on attending. Why couldn't it be literally anyone else?!
Additionally, rumors now are that Scherzer is pitching Sunday against the Brewers afterall.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Again - McCutchen went unclaimed while healthy, more productive and cheaper this season.
I'd be surprised if anyone puts a claim in on Donaldson. I'm not even 100% sure the Cardinals will; I think they may see if he clears and try to engineer a trade.
$4.5 million for Josh Donaldson and his limp for 5 weeks isn't exactly a bargain.
I was about to say that McCutchen passed through, and with Ozuna's shoulder, he would have been a good target. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Again - McCutchen went unclaimed while healthy, more productive and cheaper this season.
I'd be surprised if anyone puts a claim in on Donaldson. I'm not even 100% sure the Cardinals will; I think they may see if he clears and try to engineer a trade.
$4.5 million for Josh Donaldson and his limp for 5 weeks isn't exactly a bargain.
If they will take some of roster glut we will likely release anyway, I don't have a problem with it, but it can't be anything significant at this point of the year and considering he could be a Greg Holland equivalent position player. [Reply]
Originally Posted by VAChief:
If they will take some of roster glut we will likely release anyway, I don't have a problem with it, but it can't be anything significant at this point of the year and considering he could be a Greg Holland equivalent position player.
I'm not wholly convinced that Donaldson with bad legs will give us anything more than Patrick Wisdom would, but that's easily the most I'd give up for him and if I did, the Jays would be taking salary back.
Wisdom's gone this off-season one way or the other. We either lose him as a minor league FA or in a trade for marginal organizational depth piece. If we could send him back to Toronto to get a million bucks back, that's probably as good a use for him as we'll find.
But even that could backfire as again - I wouldn't be surprised to see Wisdom actually outplay Donaldson going forward. Folks are really underestimating how screwed up Donaldson's lower half is and how badly that will impact his swing. I doubt he'll be able to play more than 2 of every 3 games and there's a decent chance he just breaks down outright.
His swing is just too violent. Without his legs under him, it's just not gonna work. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Again - McCutchen went unclaimed while healthy, more productive and cheaper this season.
I'd be surprised if anyone puts a claim in on Donaldson. I'm not even 100% sure the Cardinals will; I think they may see if he clears and try to engineer a trade.
$4.5 million for Josh Donaldson and his limp for 5 weeks isn't exactly a bargain.
Have to give credit where it’s due- you were right. He’s cleared waivers.
Now the infamous Bob Nightengale thinks we are the favorites to land him.
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Donaldson is going to be a really interesting FA case. Before the year, I would have predicted something like 3/55 for him. Now?
Who knows, but I can’t see anything committing multiple years at this point.
Unless its heavily weighted to performance, how could any team give him multiple years with the AAV he wants? Especially us with the Fowler situation/contract that's still hasnt been dealt with yet and that's a bomb waiting to detonate in the off season. No way you don't have to pay $50 million for that problem to go away. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Donaldson is going to be a really interesting FA case. Before the year, I would have predicted something like 3/55 for him. Now?
Who knows, but I can’t see anything committing multiple years at this point.
He cleared.
The Jays will trade him for something for that very reason. They can't offer him a QO - he'll absolutely take it. Nobody's gonna give him a LTC and he'll end up stuck in Moustakas purgatory if he turned down the QO and went to market with draft pick compensation attached.
No, if the Jays offer him the QO, they're paying him $19 million next season. So they won't.
I just don't think there's much of a market for him. Wisdom for Donaldson and at least $1 million seems like too much to give for a broken down 3b but I'd probably go ahead and do it. [Reply]
Oh, and for the record, the guy to get isn't even Donaldson - it's Logan Forsythe.
He's a 2b with enough defensive versatility to slide over to 3b if/when Wong gets back healthy. He's a solid veteran stick who we know can help us right now.
Gimme Forsythe so we don't risk rushing Wong back too early. Play Munoz at 3b where he's actually been pretty decent defensively this year. Forsythe can take Garcia's utility IFer role (with Munoz weirdly becoming an OF/IF hybrid) if/when Gyorko returns. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I just don't think there's much of a market for him. Wisdom for Donaldson and at least $1 million seems like too much to give for a broken down 3b but I'd probably go ahead and do it.
I thought you and Hamas were big Gyrko fans? [Reply]