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The Lounge>Doubters repent thread:
Chris Meck 06:29 PM 01-12-2020
Here it is. Come clean.

Andy bashers, Clark bashers, Spags sucks, Honey Badger makes business decisions, whatever-anything you want to get off your chest.

Admit your specific sins, admit you were wrong, and apologize.

AND THEN GET ON THE GODDAMNED BUS!

edit:
the intent of this thread was not to lord anything over anyone about however frustrated or dejected you might have been during the 1st quarter of the Texans game. It was intended as a thread in which folks could talk about all the things they'd had a knee-jerk reaction to during the season which had turned out to be wrong. I thought it'd be fun and then we could all get on the bus the rest of the way to the 'ship. But of course, we can never all be pulling in the same direction, because Chiefsplanet. Carry on.
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burt 10:50 AM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by stevieray:
it's almost like the rest of your post contradicts this sentence.

And thanks for the History lesson., but some of us are in the moment.

I hope you can feel it. it's pretty damn exciting.
Yep, I'm Feeling Alright!!!! Well, me and Joe Cocker.....
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rabblerouser 11:36 AM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by stevieray:
it's almost like the rest of your post contradicts this sentence.

And thanks for the History lesson., but some of us are in the moment.

I hope you can feel it. it's pretty damn exciting.
Forgive them, First Down Elvis, for they not know what they post...
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FAX 11:42 AM 01-14-2020
I never actually thought about this before (not saying that's anything new ... there are lots of things I've never thought about before), but ...

Is it possible that, when watching sports, our expectations are more reflective of our own personal outlook than that of the team?

In other words, if we expect things to go badly in our own lives ("Because Me?"), we project those prospects on our coaches and players?

Expectation theory has a lot of advocates, after all. In the world of finance and education (for example) the idea has traction among many. Could it apply in sports, as well?

It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility. And if it is true, one could reasonably argue that it's best to not boo your team when things go south ... or surrender prematurely to hopelessness.

Who knows? As Marshawn says, it might be the best thing for your mentals.

FAX THE THOUGHTFUL
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stevieray 11:56 AM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by FAX:
I never actually thought about this before (not saying that's anything new ... there are lots of things I've never thought about before), but ...

Is it possible that, when watching sports, our expectations are more reflective of our own personal outlook than that of the team?

In other words, if we expect things to go badly in our own lives ("Because Me?"), we project those prospects on our coaches and players?

Expectation theory has a lot of advocates, after all. In the world of finance and education (for example) the idea has traction among many. Could it apply in sports, as well?

It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility. And if it is true, one could reasonably argue that it's best to not boo your team when things go south ... or surrender prematurely to hopelessness.

Who knows? As Marshawn says, it might be the best thing for your mentals.

FAX THE THOUGHTFUL
rabble. clay and 007 and I were pretty calm, considering. I mentioned that Pat had already put up 28 in a qtr.....next thing you know....MAJOR kudos to the Defense getting off the filed and and giving the ball back to pat.

Trust me on this, I was so mad I walked out on the Triplette call. I'd never done that before.


But on Sunday...I just wasn't within a million miles of defeat. It was surreal to me. I trusted Pat. I trusted the D. ...then it became obvious we just were NOT going to be denied.

That said, I felt like I'd had a heart attack by half time.... so much adrenaline flowing through my veins.

Just an amazing day.
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Eleazar 12:07 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by FAX:
...one could reasonably argue that it's best to not boo your team when things go south
I firmly believe that this is true.

I know that Joe Sixpack is a little too invested in the team and thinks that his booing will make a football player suddenly realize they aren't doing a good job, or that he's paid his money and has paid for the right to boo if he's unhappy.

But if we really want the crowd to make a difference, if we want to maximize our homefield advantage, that extends to everything. When they do well we back them. When they are struggling we back them even harder.

Booing doesn't have any place in this situation. It provides no benefit to us. It only benefits the other team. Our team should know we are with them and not against them, no matter what. It's Andy's job to correct mental errors and enforce discipline. It's our job to urge them on and to attack the other team.
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Mecca 12:17 PM 01-14-2020
When 14 points were given away on special teams, after the other snafus this year with Winchester and blocked punts........I wanted to strangle the fuck out of Dave Toub.
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Superturtle 12:20 PM 01-14-2020
DRob was pissing me the fuck off. Even when it was 24-21 he dropped it on 2nd and goal.
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FAX 12:24 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
When 14 points were given away on special teams, after the other snafus this year with Winchester and blocked punts........I wanted to strangle the **** out of Dave Toub.
Well ...

According to my theory-in-progress, this could mean that you either A) have a choking fetish or B) you may have an emerging asthma problem and need to consult a physician.

On the other hand, maybe Toub deserves to die.

I'm still working out the details of my hypothesis.

FAX
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Chris Meck 12:24 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by Gravedigger:
I'm not repenting shit. When they were down 24 - 0 I was calling for Reid's head, because after a bye week and you come out like that, then someone's head is going to roll if we lost that game. Just because we had the perfect storm of Patrick being Patrick, Bill O'Brien being a ****ing clown, and the Texans Defense and Offense losing morality once halftime came about, doesn't mean Andy isn't on thin ice. It's go time, as Soren Petro says, "You're in the get it right business, and your job is to get it right." We've given Andy the better part of a decade to get it right and he came close last year, which bought him this year and next year. If we would've lost that game the way we were losing it, in the first game, after having the bye, YET AGAIN, I would've been good with see ya Andy! We'll figure this out with someone else. By winning that game, I won't question him if he loses on Sunday, or in the Super Bowl, he's bought next year, but you better not regress back to one and done in the playoffs, especially with the roster we have. We were getting blown out and shouldn't expect our team to be invincible and come back 51 - 7 everytime we need it because it's definitely the exception, and not the rule. Can he come back from that? Sure, it's possible. But if it doesn't happen I'm not going to be an ass and come on the boards and demand everyone who thought Patrick would come back and he didn't deserves to repent. **** that, you be a Chiefs fan in your way and I'll be a Chiefs fan in my way. Andy went to numerous NFC Title Games and then the Super Bowl and lost and that bought him a good amount of years after that of mediocrity and not sniffing the title game with the Eagles, so they eventually fired him. You have to look at him and say this is who he is, until he proves us wrong.
well, ASS, that wasn't the intent of the thread. The intent of the thread was about all the knee jerk reactions all season wrong. I wasn't intending it to be about THE GAME. But you decided to ASSUME that, and if you'd read the thread, you'd know that wasn't what I was talking about.

It was supposed to be about all the ANDY SUCKS, SPAG SUCKS, VEACH GOTTA GO, HONEY BADGER IS JAG, CLARK SUCKS stuff.

A positive post, really, where we'd talk about how despite all the injuries, so many things went VERY RIGHT after all this year.

Other took it and ran with it about THE GAME, which was therapeutic I guess in it's own way and sort of entertaining. But wasn't the intent.

But you do you.
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FAX 12:32 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by stevieray:
rabble. clay and 007 and I were pretty calm, considering. I mentioned that Pat had already put up 28 in a qtr.....next thing you know....MAJOR kudos to the Defense getting off the filed and and giving the ball back to pat.

Trust me on this, I was so mad I walked out on the Triplette call. I'd never done that before.


But on Sunday...I just wasn't within a million miles of defeat. It was surreal to me. I trusted Pat. I trusted the D. ...then it became obvious we just were NOT going to be denied.

That said, I felt like I'd had a heart attack by half time.... so much adrenaline flowing through my veins.

Just an amazing day.
My hope quotient declined to about 65% or so when we were down 24-zip. That lasted through the next commercial ... then I recovered. Like you, I recalled the Faider game.

The main thing that helped me through was the method whereby the Toxins got their points. An unusual bust by Ward, the blocked punt, and the muff by Tyreek ... those were outliers and highly rare mistakes. I chalked it up to nerves.

Once I came to my senses, I knew we had plenty of time to right the ship. But here's the main reason my mentals were actually pretty good overall; Mahomes + Wally After A Bye.

We have one of the most skilled offenses in NFL history right now. You simply can't hold them down forever.

Both on and off the field, it all boils down to mentals in the end.

FAX
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stevieray 12:54 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by FAX:
My hope quotient declined to about 65% or so when we were down 24-zip. That lasted through the next commercial ... then I recovered. Like you, I recalled the Faider game.

The main thing that helped me through was the method whereby the Toxins got their points. An unusual bust by Ward, the blocked punt, and the muff by Tyreek ... those were outliers and highly rare mistakes. I chalked it up to nerves.

Once I came to my senses, I knew we had plenty of time to right the ship. But here's the main reason my mentals were actually pretty good overall; Mahomes + Wally After A Bye.

We have one of the most skilled offenses in NFL history right now. You simply can't hold them down forever.

Both on and off the field, it all boils down to mentals in the end.

FAX
Amen.

I can only imagine what a confidence booster this was for the team.

Team hasn't lost by more than 7 since Pat took over. That Texans game was over with 13 minutes to go..the score never changed.

We are LITERALLY in every game, regardless.
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MontyKC 01:12 PM 01-14-2020
There has been a calm over me all season. I was not too concerned about the outcome of the game. I've been a Chiefs fan for over 25 years. I lived in Wichita as a child and moved around until my family settled in Lindale/Tyler area of East Texas.

I latched onto the Chiefs due to Joe Montana, prior Kansas roots and the fact that they were the Dallas Texans. I played football with Pat Mahomes senior. He was on JV and I scrimmaged against him. He and I have know each other for almost 30 years, although we were never close friends. More FB friends.

The reason I'm talking about my past is that I believe that this is a team of destiny. The Chiefs are in existence because of the oil fields of East Texas. Lamar Hunt and the Hunt Family lived in Tyler, Texas where PM II was born and raised. In away PM II will not only be bringing the trophy home to KC but he will also be repping Tyler, Lindale and Whitehouse Texas. It is gonna happen.
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rabblerouser 01:15 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by stevieray:
rabble. clay and 007 and I were pretty calm, considering. I mentioned that Pat had already put up 28 in a qtr.....next thing you know....MAJOR kudos to the Defense getting off the filed and and giving the ball back to pat.

Trust me on this, I was so mad I walked out on the Triplette call. I'd never done that before.


But on Sunday...I just wasn't within a million miles of defeat. It was surreal to me. I trusted Pat. I trusted the D. ...then it became obvious we just were NOT going to be denied.

That said, I felt like I'd had a heart attack by half time.... so much adrenaline flowing through my veins.

Just an amazing day.
That really happened, didn't it??
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Gravedigger 01:15 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
well, ASS, that wasn't the intent of the thread. The intent of the thread was about all the knee jerk reactions all season wrong. I wasn't intending it to be about THE GAME. But you decided to ASSUME that, and if you'd read the thread, you'd know that wasn't what I was talking about.

It was supposed to be about all the ANDY SUCKS, SPAG SUCKS, VEACH GOTTA GO, HONEY BADGER IS JAG, CLARK SUCKS stuff.

A positive post, really, where we'd talk about how despite all the injuries, so many things went VERY RIGHT after all this year.

Other took it and ran with it about THE GAME, which was therapeutic I guess in it's own way and sort of entertaining. But wasn't the intent.

But you do you.
If you're not used to Chiefs fans having knee jerk reactions by now, then you never will. You taking offense to my post is the same thing I did to yours, but you do you.
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Chris Meck 01:44 PM 01-14-2020
Originally Posted by Gravedigger:
If you're not used to Chiefs fans having knee jerk reactions by now, then you never will. You taking offense to my post is the same thing I did to yours, but you do you.

really? I know you are but what am I?
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