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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Electoral Map Is a Reality Check to Trump’s Bid
Lex Luthor 05:16 PM 04-02-2016
Trump trails Hillary in virtually every state. If he is the Republican nominee, it will be an electoral college defeat of historic proportions.

Originally Posted by :
Donald J. Trump’s presidential candidacy has stunned the Republican Party. But if he survives a late revolt by his rivals and other leaders to become the party’s standard-bearer in the general election, the electoral map now coming into view is positively forbidding.

In recent head-to-head polls with one Democrat whom Mr. Trump may face in the fall, Hillary Clinton, he trails in every key state, including Florida and Ohio, despite her soaring unpopularity ratings with swing voters.

In Democratic-leaning states across the Rust Belt, which Mr. Trump has vowed to return to the Republican column for the first time in nearly 30 years, his deficit is even worse: Mrs. Clinton leads him by double digits in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Mr. Trump is so negatively viewed, polls suggest, that he could turn otherwise safe Republican states, usually political afterthoughts because of their strong conservative tilt, into tight contests. In Utah, his deep unpopularity with Mormon voters suggests that a state that has gone Republican every election for a half-century could wind up in play. Republicans there pointed to a much-discussed Deseret News poll last month, showing Mrs. Clinton with a narrow lead over Mr. Trump, to argue that the state would be difficult for him.

Horse-race polls this early are poor predictors of election results, and candidates have turned around public opinion before. And the country’s politics have become so sharply polarized that no major-party contender is likely to come near the 49-state defeats suffered by Democrats in 1972 and 1984.

But without an extraordinary reversal — or the total collapse of whoever becomes his general-election opponent — Mr. Trump could be hard-pressed to win more than 200 electoral votes.

Mr. Trump has become unacceptable, perhaps irreversibly so, to broad swaths of Americans, including large majorities of women, nonwhites, Hispanics, voters under 30 and those with college degrees — the voters who powered President Obama’s two victories and represent the country’s demographic future. All view him unfavorably by a 2-to-1 margin, according to a recent New York Times/CBS News poll.

In some states, Mr. Trump has surprised establishment-aligned Republicans with his breadth of support beyond the less-educated men who form his base. Even so, his support in the nominating process, in which some 30 million people may ultimately vote, would be swamped in a general election, when turnout is likely to be four times that.

“We’re talking about somebody who has the passionate devotion of a minority and alternately scares, appalls, angers — or all of the above — a majority of the country,” said Henry Olsen, a conservative analyst. “This isn’t anything but a historic election defeat just waiting to happen.”

(It's a fairly long article, so I put the rest in spoiler tags.)

Spoiler!
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartanntp
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go bo 10:29 PM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by Cave Johnson:
Oh, the stand down nonsense again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...c7d_story.html
but but but, bep assured me in an intimate conversation that hilldebeast personally issued the order to stand down to all military, state department personnel and cia operatives worldwide...

and there's proof too, just check out bep's impeccable sources...
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go bo 10:34 PM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by mlyonsd:
It will be more clear to you when the families of those that died tell their story in the general election campaign ads.

There's a reason the majority of the country views her as untrustworthy. This is just one example. Her incompetence helped lead those people to their deaths, which in itself is bad enough. But her lying to the families should be an unforgivable political offense.

For the democrats I know it is and it's good to see some moral people still exist in the party.
all of this may be true, and i understand that your firmly believe those things, but what does it say about trump and/or homo vampire that people (including me) would still rather vote for her?? :-)
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LiveSteam 10:41 PM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by go bowe:
all of this may be true, and i understand that your firmly believe those things, but what does it say about trump and/or homo vampire that people (including me) would still rather vote for her?? :-)
Bwaaaaahahahaha. Rather...
(Including me) wasn't bad either.
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go bo 10:44 PM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief:
It was in a civil war. Then the West decided to arm and help, including direct air strikes, the rebels some of which were Islamic extremists. There was a civil war but it wasn't clear that Qaddafi was going to go until the West made sure of it.

The current situation in Libya is worse than when Qaddafi was in charge but hey I guess you support the largest war monger left in the race and run cover for her. Principals above principles as always for you.
do you ever think about what you say to people?

sometimes you come across like an arrogant asshole...

because some people hold dear to different principles than you does not mean they don't have principles or that they disregard them for whatever purpose...

that describes an individual of low character, which is insulting to any intelligent educated person....

i disagree with most of the principles you espouse hereabouts, but until now i didn't regard you as anything other than a rational, principled person...

this post seems more like the work of an arrogant prick... :-)
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go bo 10:52 PM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
I'll show you polls that show her smoking Trump. She isn't trustworthy at all. Republicans voting for Trump are basically forcing those of us who aren't insane to vote for someone as terrible as Hillary. Let that sink in.
yep, that's pretty much how i feel about it too...

as bad as she is, she's worlds better than drumpf or homo vampire...

let that sink in folks...
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Prison Bitch 10:54 PM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by go bowe:
all of this may be true, and i understand that your firmly believe those things, but what does it say about trump and/or homo vampire that people (including me) would still rather vote for her?? :-)
Are you asking me what it says about you?
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BWillie 10:55 PM 04-03-2016
You know, the more I think about this, the more I like it. Trump literally cant win. So I dont have to worry aboit that. If it was Sanders vs Cruz, I think the Libertarian vote would be low. But if its Trump vs Hilary I think there will be tons of disgruntled voters who dont want to vote for an alleged corrupt establishment candidate (Clinton) or a perceived racist pyschopath (Trump). The Libertarians will be on the ballot in every state, and if they win their lawsuit against the networks to allow Gary Johnson in the debate, things could at least get interesting. Especially with social media & the new hipsyer I hate anything that is popular crowd. Not enough for the Libertarians to win, but at least enough to start a potential political party shift in American Politics.
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go bo 10:56 PM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by LiveSteam:
Bwaaaaahahahaha. Rather...
(Including me) wasn't bad either.
if bernie doesn't get the nomination, i am definitely voting for the old biddy over drumpf or homo vampire...

if kasich somehow gets the nod, i would strongly consider his record and positions and contrast them with hillary's and see what shakes out...
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go bo 10:58 PM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Are you asking me what it says about you?
i should have expected you wouldn't be able to comprehend a simple sentence...

no, i was asking what does it say about drumpf and homo vampire...
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Prison Bitch 10:59 PM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by go bowe:
i should have expected you wouldn't be able to comprehend a simple sentence...

no, i was asking what does it say about drumpf and homo vampire...
It does say a lot about you, agreed
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go bo 11:10 PM 04-03-2016
jesus mary and joseph!

you are worse than a little child...

i don't give a shit what you of all people think of me...

you are a running joke around here and i enjoy laughing at your stupidity on full display every day...

but sometimes you are so unbelievably dumb i have to just shake my head and then shake my shoes and head down the path past you...
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BWillie 11:13 PM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by alnorth:
Cruz would have a better chance than Trump, only because almost anyone would have a better chance than Trump, but Cruz would likely be beaten pretty easily by Hillary.

Rubio, Kasich, even Jeb! all had a much better chance of winning the election against a fairly weak democrat, but the GOP primary voters went full retard this year, and so they likely threw away both the white house and the supreme court.
They just destroyed the Republican party. Trump vs Hilary is going make tons of Americans explore third party candidate. It would be a great election for Bloomberg to run, but I think you will see Gary Johnson get upwards to 10% of the popular vote this year. Maybe a social media storm and conspiracy will come out about Hilary that even enables him to win, even though obviously that is a HUGE longshot
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CoMoChief 11:31 PM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor:
Kasich beats Hillary in most of the polls I've seen.
I'd be curious to see this ...care to post a couple?
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jd1020 11:36 PM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
I'd be curious to see this ...care to post a couple?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...nton-5162.html

Kasich is the only one leading vs Clinton.

Sanders beats them all, but he wont beat Clinton so it doesn't matter. He's basically trying to be the Democratic version of Kasich and win at the convention.

The only problem with these polls is that I think if Kasich were to win at the convention the party will be destroyed. Maybe the Trump supporters will vote for Kasich, but I assume many will simply protest.
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LiveSteam 12:09 AM 04-04-2016
Originally Posted by go bowe:
if bernie doesn't get the nomination, i am definitely voting for the old biddy over drumpf or homo vampire...

if kasich somehow gets the nod, i would strongly consider his record and positions and contrast them with hillary's and then vote for Hillary..
FYP. Please don't insult what lil intelligence I have. :-)
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