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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Electoral Map Is a Reality Check to Trump’s Bid
Lex Luthor 05:16 PM 04-02-2016
Trump trails Hillary in virtually every state. If he is the Republican nominee, it will be an electoral college defeat of historic proportions.

Originally Posted by :
Donald J. Trump’s presidential candidacy has stunned the Republican Party. But if he survives a late revolt by his rivals and other leaders to become the party’s standard-bearer in the general election, the electoral map now coming into view is positively forbidding.

In recent head-to-head polls with one Democrat whom Mr. Trump may face in the fall, Hillary Clinton, he trails in every key state, including Florida and Ohio, despite her soaring unpopularity ratings with swing voters.

In Democratic-leaning states across the Rust Belt, which Mr. Trump has vowed to return to the Republican column for the first time in nearly 30 years, his deficit is even worse: Mrs. Clinton leads him by double digits in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Mr. Trump is so negatively viewed, polls suggest, that he could turn otherwise safe Republican states, usually political afterthoughts because of their strong conservative tilt, into tight contests. In Utah, his deep unpopularity with Mormon voters suggests that a state that has gone Republican every election for a half-century could wind up in play. Republicans there pointed to a much-discussed Deseret News poll last month, showing Mrs. Clinton with a narrow lead over Mr. Trump, to argue that the state would be difficult for him.

Horse-race polls this early are poor predictors of election results, and candidates have turned around public opinion before. And the country’s politics have become so sharply polarized that no major-party contender is likely to come near the 49-state defeats suffered by Democrats in 1972 and 1984.

But without an extraordinary reversal — or the total collapse of whoever becomes his general-election opponent — Mr. Trump could be hard-pressed to win more than 200 electoral votes.

Mr. Trump has become unacceptable, perhaps irreversibly so, to broad swaths of Americans, including large majorities of women, nonwhites, Hispanics, voters under 30 and those with college degrees — the voters who powered President Obama’s two victories and represent the country’s demographic future. All view him unfavorably by a 2-to-1 margin, according to a recent New York Times/CBS News poll.

In some states, Mr. Trump has surprised establishment-aligned Republicans with his breadth of support beyond the less-educated men who form his base. Even so, his support in the nominating process, in which some 30 million people may ultimately vote, would be swamped in a general election, when turnout is likely to be four times that.

“We’re talking about somebody who has the passionate devotion of a minority and alternately scares, appalls, angers — or all of the above — a majority of the country,” said Henry Olsen, a conservative analyst. “This isn’t anything but a historic election defeat just waiting to happen.”

(It's a fairly long article, so I put the rest in spoiler tags.)

Spoiler!
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartanntp
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Dave Lane 08:03 PM 04-02-2016
Originally Posted by eDave:
"it’s a terrible time right now” to invest in the stock market.

- Trump. Today.
- Buffoon. Today.
It's not the right year to draft a QB either.
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Dave Lane 08:06 PM 04-02-2016
Originally Posted by Aries Walker:
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BigRedChief 08:22 PM 04-02-2016
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief:
So Hillary was not in favor of the destabilization of Libya?

Not sure what your chart does to disprove what a cluster that Libya and Yemen turned in too....
It's obvious what it proves. Clinton is being held to a higher standard than what saint Reagan was. For crissakes he sold arms to our enemies.
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stevieray 08:44 PM 04-02-2016
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief:
So Hillary was not in favor of the destabilization of Libya?

Not sure what your chart does to disprove what a cluster that Libya and Yemen turned in too....
Not only that..Clinton admin?


The bigger issue is the TOTAL number of attacks...err workplace violence incidents.

Instead, it's just the usual.... "well, my dad can beat up your dad" BS
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rockymtnchief 08:57 PM 04-02-2016
Originally Posted by eDave:
Honest question. During any of those attacks, were the military told to stand down while the attack was happening? I'm pretty sure the attacks weren't blamed on a YouTube video, but we're we mislead as to the reason of the attacks?
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cosmo20002 11:29 PM 04-02-2016
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief:
So Hillary was not in favor of the destabilization of Libya?

Not sure what your chart does to disprove what a cluster that Libya and Yemen turned in too....
It was destabilized whether she was in favor of it or not.
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cosmo20002 11:33 PM 04-02-2016
Originally Posted by rockymtnchief:
Honest question. During any of those attacks, were the military told to stand down while the attack was happening?
Who exactly do you think issued a stand down order at Benghazi?
Please link to something credible to back up your response.

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief:
I'm pretty sure the attacks weren't blamed on a YouTube video, but we're we mislead as to the reason of the attacks?
The attacks were blamed on terrorists.
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Direckshun 11:37 PM 04-02-2016
Libya unfortunately is another Syria. Anybody claiming to have an answer to that failed state is deluded.
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Warrior5 01:57 AM 04-03-2016
This article, regardless of the source, reinforces what I have believed since before Trump won his first primary: if he is the GOP nominee, he will get destroyed by whomever is the dem nominee (won't matter if Hillary is indicted).

The already ~47% + women + minorities

Add to the equation the fact that many repubs find Trump so repugnant, they will simply stay home.
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LiveSteam 02:26 AM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by Warrior5:
This article, regardless of the source, reinforces what I have believed since before Trump won his first primary: if he is the GOP nominee, he will get destroyed by whomever is the dem nominee (won't matter if Hillary is indicted).

The already ~47% + women + minorities

Add to the equation the fact that many repubs find Trump so repugnant, they will simply stay home.
Do you think Cruz could beat Hillary?
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Warrior5 03:24 AM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by LiveSteam:
Do you think Cruz could beat Hillary?
Actually I do; at the very least he has a better chance than Trump.

He'd beat Hillary in the debates, whereas Trump bloviates through "evolving" positions on a weekly basis.

He'd do better with women and minorities than Trump.

If you can get past Trump's appearance, you can get past Cruz' Dracula look. Establishment hates Cruz, and I've seen no credible evidence (yet) of the alleged Cruz affairs, new world order, and "Lyin' Ted" stuff that Trump supporters talk about. Cruz tends to make speeches rather than just talk to people, but he eventually gets around to providing informed answers on policy.

I think Repub voters could actually unify around Cruz; I don't see the opposite.

My .02.
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LiveSteam 03:54 AM 04-03-2016
Just Republican voters does not beat Hillary.

Edit// missed ( will do better with minority & women)
I think he gets crushed. He's just not likable & hard to listen to. He has no chance in Cal,NY,Fla or any of the States that matter but Texas. My.02
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Direckshun 04:29 AM 04-03-2016
I agree that Cruz has a better chance than Trump.

I don't think either of them stand much of a chance, however.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 07:06 AM 04-03-2016
The Cruz-stomping would be beyond epic.
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BigRedChief 07:52 AM 04-03-2016
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
I agree that Cruz has a better chance than Trump.

I don't think either of them stand much of a chance, however.
THIS!

Cruz is a right wing fanatic. Either I get my way or we shut down the government positions. Ban abortions, gay marriage etc etc.

The voting electorate wants no part of having a extreme right wing President. He will make no gains beyond the 30% that want a return to Goldwater days and want their country back.
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