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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>Welp. Looks like we need a RB.
Buehler445 01:15 PM 12-06-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
I'd bet you could get him for like, 3/12 with 8 guaranteed
I’d be down for that. As long as he quits fumbling :-)
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BryanBusby 02:38 PM 12-06-2018
God I don't know how you guys deal with twins. One toddler makes me want to drink.
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DJ's left nut 03:32 PM 12-07-2018
Learned an interesting fact last month - identical twins aren't hereditary. Just complete flukes; no reason to believe that their children will be any more predisposed to twins of their own.

Fraternal are hereditary and I'm pretty sure I recall it just traveling with the females, but for identicals they're just a one-off.

Would've never guessed that.

FUCK YOUR THREAD, KC HAWKS! THIS IS OUR THREAD NOW! WE WILL OVERWHELM YOU WITH NUMBERS!
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KC Hawks 03:38 PM 12-07-2018
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Learned an interesting fact last month - identical twins aren't hereditary. Just complete flukes; no reason to believe that their children will be any more predisposed to twins of their own.

Fraternal are hereditary and I'm pretty sure I recall it just traveling with the females, but for identicals they're just a one-off.

Would've never guessed that.

FUCK YOUR THREAD, KC HAWKS! THIS IS OUR THREAD NOW! WE WILL OVERWHELM YOU WITH NUMBERS!
No, it's fine. I think it's smart to draft twins to play RB. Increases our odds of finding a stud!!
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CoMoChief 04:42 PM 12-07-2018
It makes no sense whatsoever to take a RB earlier than rd 3 in today's game.

Stupid.
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UChieffyBugger 06:36 PM 12-07-2018
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
It makes no sense whatsoever to take a RB earlier than rd 3 in today's game.

Stupid.
Not if a stud is there. The facts are the facts, most of the best RB's are taken in the first or second rounds.
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Chargem 05:03 AM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger:
Not if a stud is there. The facts are the facts, most of the best RB's are taken in the first or second rounds.
If the Chiefs are picking 32, and they have to choose between a CB or a DL who everyone agrees is late first round talent, and a clone of Saquon Barkley, I'd much rather they chose the DL/CB than Saquon at 32.

On average, it does seem like the first round running backs do perform slightly better, but for the production/increase of win chance you get from a "stud" RB just isn't worth the resource of a 1st round pick, especially not for the Chiefs next year.
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UChieffyBugger 07:15 AM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by Chargem:
If the Chiefs are picking 32, and they have to choose between a CB or a DL who everyone agrees is late first round talent, and a clone of Saquon Barkley, I'd much rather they chose the DL/CB than Saquon at 32.

On average, it does seem like the first round running backs do perform slightly better, but for the production/increase of win chance you get from a "stud" RB just isn't worth the resource of a 1st round pick, especially not for the Chiefs next year.
If it's between an average defender and a potential stud rb then honestly i'm taking the rb. The chance to get a Barkley type talent won't be there for us often so you have to strike when you have a chance.

Anyway guys, the more i look at the rb options, the more impressive Kansas States Alex Barnes is looking. He's 6'1, well built and has decent speed. He can carry the ball and is decent catching it too. Saw an interview where he spoke about working hard on developing his route tree. I really think he may be the one for kc. Lord knows they must have seen him a ton already with him being a local kid.
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Karlos 05:18 PM 12-17-2018
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
It makes no sense whatsoever to take a RB earlier than rd 3 in today's game.

Stupid.
Well, that's not necessarily true. Look at EE or Barkley. They are worth every bit of their draft position and were both taken very high.

I agree for us it would make zero sense to take a running back in the first 2 rounds (even with our extra pick in the 2nd) given our needs elsewhere.

Fortunately for us we could have a game changing running back fall into our laps in the 3rd or 4th rounds though. Rodney Anderson would fit out our offence well and could be the best RB in the draft, but of course he has massive injury concerns that could completely derail his career. Given the hole Hunt left in our offence I'd rather us swing for the fences with someone like Anderson rather than play it safer with someone else.
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Chris Meck 01:34 PM 12-08-2018
without Hunt, we're still a top offense. Should we look to re-stock the position? Of course.

This defense is SHIT. It's likely going to cost us a Lombardi this year. Let's not make that mistake next year.

High picks and FA money needs to go on that side of the ball.
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kccrow 02:18 PM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
without Hunt, we're still a top offense. Should we look to re-stock the position? Of course.

This defense is SHIT. It's likely going to cost us a Lombardi this year. Let's not make that mistake next year.

High picks and FA money needs to go on that side of the ball.
There are only a select few players on the defensive side of the ball worth throwing a wad of cash at in free agency and, unfortunately, most of them play positions we have hefty contracts at already or our own free agents as worthy of re-signing. I think FA Money is going to be best spent on mid-tier offensive players and some defensive reclamation projects. I'm pretty much of the opinion that the top 3 picks in the draft need to be used to re-tool the defense and use the rest on whatever you want.
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O.city 02:28 PM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by kccrow:
There are only a select few players on the defensive side of the ball worth throwing a wad of cash at in free agency and, unfortunately, most of them play positions we have hefty contracts at already or our own free agents as worthy of re-signing. I think FA Money is going to be best spent on mid-tier offensive players and some defensive reclamation projects. I'm pretty much of the opinion that the top 3 picks in the draft need to be used to re-tool the defense and use the rest on whatever you want.
Yep

They need depth from free agency. Hit on some mid tier cheaper guys, draft or trade for your big names
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pugsnotdrugs19 03:07 PM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by kccrow:
There are only a select few players on the defensive side of the ball worth throwing a wad of cash at in free agency and, unfortunately, most of them play positions we have hefty contracts at already or our own free agents as worthy of re-signing. I think FA Money is going to be best spent on mid-tier offensive players and some defensive reclamation projects. I'm pretty much of the opinion that the top 3 picks in the draft need to be used to re-tool the defense and use the rest on whatever you want.
The S position has some pretty decent FA options. Might be the way to go there.
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kccrow 06:57 PM 12-08-2018
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
The S position has some pretty decent FA options. Might be the way to go there.
Perhaps.

I think you immediately cross Landon Collins off the list. The Giants won't let him go, especially for free. They'll tag him at worst and they have enough cap to absorb it. He's the best safety in the NFL.

Let's move on to Tyrann Mathieu. Grossly overrated but has a leadership quality to him that the Texans love. He's the 3rd best safety on that team but something tells me they'll let Kareem Jackson walk and work hard to re-sign Mathieu. Honestly, I'd probably pass on bringing him in if available.

Now onto Earl Thomas... Easily the most likely to sign in KC and easily the one that will be available. After his fuck you gesture to the team and coaches, there's no way Seattle even attempts to re-sign him. He'd be a good get but he's going to be 30 and he has two broken legs in 3 years. I'm cautious and he's going to command over $10m per.

So we get to Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix. Obviously, the Redskins are going to try their asses off to re-sign him. He's played well for them and they traded for him. I don't think he hits the market.

Now we have Lamarcus Joyner. Joyner has been a key piece of the Rams defense for several years now and they thought so well of him that they put the franchise tag on him. I'm thinking they waited to sign Joyner long-term because of the Aaron Donald situation. That said, Joyner's play has regressed severely this season and that puts his status in question. I don't think he's a schematic fit in KC, especially given his struggles playing single-high this year the way KC plays it, and would likely pass regardless of whatever happens.

We have Tre Boston, whom I like alot. I think he fits the age/price/production criteria that I'd look for. Arizona thinks quite a bit of him though too and I think they'll try to keep him in town. I'd have to think Boston is looking to settle in somewhere as well, having jumped around a few times already in his career. I have a hard time seeing Arizona letting him walk but if they do then KC should see what he's asking.

You also have Adrian Amos who is a very solid SS but he's not amazing in coverage. I think it depends on your plans for Berry on whether or not you look at this kid. Even then, I think Chicago is going to work to re-sign him and he doesn't hit the market.

That, pretty much, leaves Eric Reid as the last of a tier. Now, Reid is talented and he would likely fit but he's not someone I see KC pursuing. He's extremely positioned with the whole protest movement and whatnot as well as being vocal and even confrontational about it (see the Malcolm Jenkins ordeal). Clark Hunt isn't signing off on that in this locker room so take him straight off the list.
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SAGA45 07:52 AM 12-09-2018
This is my guy...Elijah Holyfield


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