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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>2019 What I Want Mock
kccrow 05:54 AM 04-06-2019
So, here's this year's "What I Want" mock and I have to say it was probably one of the tougher ones I've sat and pondered over. For starters, I haven't seen draft pundits be in as much disagreement over player rankings as I have seen this year. That means there is a lot of talent clustered together on day 2 and early day 3 with little idea about where they'll likely end up. I'm going with my estimations on where I see these guys going, so if you disagree it's duly noted and I have no issues with that. The other part is really thinking about what positions I'd most like KC to address and where. It feels like the team should spend the entire draft on defense again but we all know that can't and won't happen. That said, I still feel that KC should put the bulk of its early picks into the defensive side of the ball.

The Chiefs surprised me with a big move to get Frank Clark, which erases my concerns about edge rusher in my previous rendition of this mock. This is the first time in as long as I can remember that I've completely altered this mock once I posted it, but the trade this late and some new thoughts on the direction KC should go have made it a must-do. Here you go...


Round 2, Selection 61 | Amani Oruwariye, CB, Penn State (6'2" 205)
The Chiefs just simply have too many questions around the position for 2020 and have ignored it in the draft for a couple of years, so CB really has to be a priority. Oruwariye is a big, long corner that KC generally likes and fits well in zone and press-man, which we should see more of under Spags. Oruwariye has outstanding agility for a man his size and good long speed which helps him stick with most receivers. He shows good awareness of using the sideline to box out his man and uses his length to disrupt alot of passes. He needs to get better and recognizing routes earlier and sticking to shallow crossers that NFL teams will run consistently. That said, Oruwariye is another ball hawk type of player with 8 INTs in a limited amount of starts at Penn State. Most outlets have Oruwariye graded as a late 2nd to early 3rd player and I also see him available in this range. He's similar to corners that went in the same range last year in Isaiah Oliver (58) and Carlton Davis (63).

Round 2, Selection 63 (f/LAR) | Deionte Thompson, FS, Alabama (6'1" 194)
If I'm looking at the current Chiefs' roster and I want to identify a spot where I think you can get the biggest bang for your buck with a 2nd round pick, then that spot is undoubtedly at free safety. I'm not comfortable trotting out Daniel Sorenson to play that spot and I really don't think I saw enough from Jordan Lucas (mind you I was all about trading for him before it happened so I like the kid), to say that's the guy either. Certainly, Amani Watts has to be a consideration but I see him more as a box safety and never did particularly love his cover skills. All that said, I think the Chiefs can do the most with this pick by taking a guy that can make plays on the ball and has the athleticism to play single-high or the physicality to come down into 2 deep looks. If I were to guess a safety that will be there at 61 that can do those things, Thompson is the guy. Overall, I love Thompson's play demeanor, willingness to tackle, and his ability to play the football. He's a bit on the thin side and he certainly is rough around the edges, but I think you can coach this kid up to be a pretty good player.

Round 3, Selection 84 (f/SEA) | Terry McLaurin, WR, Ohio State (6'0" 208)
The Chiefs are set to have Demarcus Robinson, Tyreek Hill, Marcus Kemp, and Gerhig Deiter all hit free agency in 2020 and the Sammy Watkins contract could add a potential cut at the position. I won't be surprised if the Chiefs add more than one prospect at receiver in the coming draft if they are forward thinking, especially with the looming Hill situation and already losing Chris Conley for 2019. That said, I have KC going with McLaurin who is a burner at the receiver position (4.35 40-yd) with good quickness, good size, solid hands, and the ability to make plays after the catch. One thing about Reid's offense is that he really likes guys with that YAC ability that can take a short throw and turn it into a 20 yard gain. McLaurin displayed YAC ability regularly in OSU's weird passing offense and was a regular short-yardage/in-traffic target for Dwayne Haskins. Another thing McLaurin does extremely well is separate from press and man-to-man coverage, which many receivers aren't adept at coming to the pros, plus he runs excellent routes and shows good break at the top. McLaurin does the little things and is an A+ blocker at the position and an ace punt gunner. He was the number four receiver at OSU but projects as a #2 in the NFL. He's got the same type of build and athletic traits as Sammy Watkins and ideally fits what Reid likes in receivers. His Senior Bowl practices and performance were outstanding.

Round 5, Selection 145 (td/TB) | Kahale Warring, TE, San Diego State (6'5" 252)
It's pretty clear that KC is looking hard for a #2 TE although they seem to be primarily focusing on guys in that 3rd round range. I can't disagree that they need to get better there because if an injury hits Travis Kelce, the entire offense for the Chiefs changes substantially. I've seen Warring's ratings kind of all over the board, some as high as round 2 and some as low as round 6. I most consistently see him in the 5th though. Although I'm personally much higher on Warring, he does come with limited starts and only one year of really solid production, so this may be a good spot for him. Warring is a guy that can do everything well and is one of the better blocking TEs coming in. He is quick to hit the seam and pressure upfield and is sharp out of breaks, which will get him open in the NFL. He also boasts excellent athleticism at the position for the NFL to go with prototypical size. Obviously coming from a small school, he has work to do on technique, but I think he ends up one of the better TEs in this class. I have the Chiefs moving up to the top end of Round 5, trading 5-167 and 6-201 to Tampa Bay for 5-145. I think you have to get in that top 150 area to snag the last remaining TEs worth drafting.

Round 6, Selection 214 (Comp) | Derwin Gray, OL, Maryland (6'4" 320)
Obviously, I slid back offensive line and decided that competition for depth spots might be the more frugal approach. The Chiefs could certainly swing for a player early that can play guard or center, but it seems like they've only looked at a few of those guys. Where they did focus alot of attention was on guys that can play right tackle or guard. I really like Gray in this role. He primarily played LT at Maryland and he was solid in a good conference, but I don't think he has the athleticism to stay there in the pros. I see his best fit kicking inside a spot to LG, but he might have the ability to play RT and he certainly wouldn't be a bad reserve option there. One thing Gray has is size and power and has enough athleticism to move in space. Gray is solid in pass pro and has the strength to stop power rushers in their tracks. Has the size and strength to drive block on running plays. Shows tenacity staying after blocks. I saw LG as much more of an issue than OC throughout the season and would like to see some draft resources be given to the position.

Round 7, Selection 216 (f/SF) | Jon'Vea Johnson, WR, Toledo (5'11" 188)
I do think that KC needs to add another speedy receiver that could step in and fill the slot role and Johnson is that type of guy. You do see a bit of a lack of production from Johnson but they had 3 NFL-caliber receivers on that roster and an atrocious offensive line that gave their QB little time to throw. Johnson showed the ability to catch alot of off-target throws out away from his frame during his time in Toledo and also showed alot of speed and agility. Johnson has a similar build (maybe a bit bigger) and similar speed (4.36 40-yd) to DeSean Jackson.

Roster

QB: Patrick Mahomes, Chad Henne, Chase Litton
RB: Damien Williams, Carlos Hyde, Darrel Williams
FB: Anthony Sherman
TE: Travis Kelce, Kahale Warring, Blake Bell
WR: Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, Demarcus Robinson, Terry McLaurin, Byron Pringle, Jon'Vea Johnson, Marcus Kemp, Gehrig Deiter
OT: Eric Fisher, Mitchell Schwartz, Andrew Wylie (OG), Derwin Gray (OG)
OG: Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Cameron Erving (OC), Ryan Hunter, Khalil McKenzie
OC: Austin Reiter, Jimmy Murray
DE: Frank Clark, Breeland Speaks, Emmanuel Ogbah, Alex Okafor, Tanoh Kpassagnon, Rob McCray
DT: Chris Jones, Derrick Nnadi, Xavier Williams, Justin Hamilton
LB: Anthony Hitchens, Dorian O'Daniel, Damien Wilson, Reggie Ragland, Ben Niemann
CB: Kendall Fuller, Bashaud Breeland, Charvarius Ward, Amani Oruwariye, Tremon Smith, D'Montre Wade
FS: Deionte Thompson, Jordan Lucas
SS: Tyrann Mathieu, Daniel Sorensen, Armani Watts
ST: Harrison Butker, Dustin Colquitt, James Winchester
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pugsnotdrugs19 08:26 AM 04-06-2019
I would say that there’s no way we could get 15 for that compensation, but maybe so given that it’s Washington...

Not gonna go into a ton of detail right now but mine would be:

1) Murphy (trade up w/ the 3rd rounder or 2020 pick)
2) Omenihu or Zach Allen
2) Deebo

If they trade up for a DE, Ferrell would make the most sense and be great IMO. I’d also be completely fine with a OL in R2.
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BryanBusby 08:27 PM 04-06-2019
That trade scenario isn't realistic at all and that's earlier than I would consider on Isaiah Johnson by a good full round.
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CoMoChief 09:41 PM 04-06-2019
Other than Ferrell that's a shit draft w/ a not so likely trade scenario.
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kccrow 10:27 PM 04-06-2019
I had the trade at a 1st and 5th and everyone said "too much too much." Listen, I really don't care either way. Do that, which is exactly what New Orleans gave up to make the same jump last year and you nix a TE in 5 and I probably take a flier on one in 6. I don't think Sample would be there that late, probably take a guy like Charles Scarff out of Delaware.

Make it a 2020 2nd and this year's 3rd and that would change how I approach round 2. And that would be I'd probably put Adderley in McGovern's slot and keep the rest the same. And yeah, I don't think Adderley is anywhere near a 1st rounder. I think he goes right about where KC picks in the 2nd. Jessie Bates was a better player all the way around and he went only a handful of picks earlier. I'd just advocate waiting on a center for a year. In any event, I'm not too hung up on the trade.

As for Johnson, I see his floor as mid 3rd. He's too athletically gifted and his stock is going up.
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kccrow 10:51 PM 04-06-2019
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
Other than Ferrell that's a shit draft w/ a not so likely trade scenario.
Considering Sample and Redwine went in the bottom of the 6th round in the Mock immediately after I posted this, I'd say a bulk of people here hadn't watched either one to determine if they are shit or not shit and probably liked what they saw when they did.

I'm guessing your argument really comes down to the Isaiah Johnson pick. Admittedly, he's a slight reach on refined skills. I'm banking on a 1st round cornerback athletic skill set that hasn't reached that same level of refinement because he spent two seasons as a WR. I'd be banking on the coaching staff to turn him into Jalen Ramsey. It's a bit Dorsey-esque.

As for the rest, I'm really not sure what's such shit.

For starters, McGovern is one of the most highly touted interior lineman in this draft class. He's pretty much a 2nd round guy across the board. He has everything Reid tends to look for inside. He has mass, strength, movement skills and length. If you don't like a Center that high, I get that. To not like the player though would be a head-scratcher. He's pretty good. I really struggled between 3 players here: Nasir Adderley, Terry McLaurin, and McGovern. I think protecting Pat is going to come into play early and it should. The amount of pressure given up on the interior was problematic in the AFC title game. That can't happen again.

Redwine is really underrated in this draft class as a safety. If you like Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, then you should very much like Redwine. Redwine isn't as refined, but he's pretty damned solid and you're talking almost 2 rounds later as a draft pick because CGJ is probably going top 40. Some are rating him a 4th-5th round pick as a CB and others as high as the 3rd as a S.

Sample is one of the best blockers and most well-rounded TEs in this draft class. I don't see him as the stud superstar, but I see him as a quality two type of player, which is what KC needs.

As for 6th and 7th round picks, well I don't put much give a shit into what happens there, but I think Johnson could develop into a good slot guy.
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kccrow 08:24 PM 04-23-2019
Well, back to the drawing board...
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BryanBusby 08:31 PM 04-23-2019
Put a corner high in your re-do.
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Supmarkus 12:10 AM 04-24-2019
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Well, back to the drawing board...
Your price for Ferrell is basically that of Clark & you still get your Stud DE
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kccrow 12:20 AM 04-24-2019
Originally Posted by Supmarkus:
Your price for Ferrell is basically that of Clark & you still get your Stud DE
It is from a compensation standpoint but it also changes salary cap dynamics for positions in future flux, which means the Chiefs may very well have to prioritize drafting CB and WR more than they would have previously.
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kccrow 12:21 AM 04-24-2019
Updated.
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Iconic 08:55 AM 04-24-2019
Aren't getting Kahale in the 5th. He's in that upper tier with Stern where at worst he'll go late 3, early 4. A more realistic option is Moreau or Mack.

I like the draft overall and would be happy with it.
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Meatloaf 10:02 AM 04-24-2019
Nice job, Crow. Really appreciate the time you took to put this together AND THEN REDO IT as per the Clark acquisition. I’d be happy with your selections though I agree with Iconic about Warring being there in the 5th. Again, thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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Couch-Potato 07:36 PM 04-24-2019
Great work! These draft analysis threads are my favorite, thank you for leading the way with your posts!

One question, and forgive me because I watch zero college ball. How could this WR be the 4th option for his college team and project as a #2 in the pros?
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kccrow 08:03 PM 04-24-2019
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Great work! These draft analysis threads are my favorite, thank you for leading the way with your posts!

One question, and forgive me because I watch zero college ball. How could this WR be the 4th option for his college team and project as a #2 in the pros?
Ohio State runs a relatively odd passing offense and they tend to favor 1 on 1 match-ups on a weekly basis. They also had Parris Campbell, KJ Hill, Johnnie Dixon, and Binjimen Victor. Campbell is a 1st to 2nd round pick. Dixon will get drafted, and Hill is probably going to be a 1st to 2nd round pick next year. Victor has potential to go pretty high too if he comes out of the shadows and posts big numbers as a rSr. Not to mention, they threw it to Mike Weber (3rd to 4th round pick) and J.K. Dobbins (likely a future 1st or 2nd round pick) a combined 47 times out of the backfield. Basically, that offense was loaded with talent and they spread the ball around. Hell, TE Luke Farrell even caught 20 balls last year as a So.
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