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Nzoner's Game Room>2019 Nascar thread
Al Bundy 12:41 PM 02-17-2019
Schedule
DAYTONA 500
Sunday, Feb 17
2:30 PM Daytona International Speedway

Folds of Honor QuikTrip 500
Sunday, Feb 24
2:00 PM Atlanta Motor Speedway

MARCH 2019
Pennzoil 400 presented by Jiffy Lube
Sunday, Mar 3
3:30 PM Las Vegas Motor Speedway

TicketGuardian 500
Sunday, Mar 10
3:30 PM ISM Raceway

Auto Club 400
Sunday, Mar 17
3:30 PM Auto Club Speedway

STP 500
Sunday, Mar 24
2:00 PM Martinsville Speedway

O’Reilly Auto Parts 500
Sunday, Mar 31
3:00 PM Texas Motor Speedway

APRIL 2019
Food City 500
Sunday, Apr 7
2:00 PM Bristol Motor Speedway

TOYOTA OWNERS 400
Saturday, Apr 13
7:30 PM Richmond Raceway

GEICO 500
Sunday, Apr 28
2:00 PM Talladega Superspeedway

MAY 2019
Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series Race at Dover
Sunday, May 5
2:00 PM Dover International Speedway

Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series Race at Kansas
Saturday, May 11
7:30 PM Kansas Speedway

Monster Energy Open
Saturday, May 18
6:00 PM Charlotte Motor Speedway

Monster Energy NASCAR All-Star Race
Saturday, May 18
8:00 PM Charlotte Motor Speedway

Coca-Cola 600
Sunday, May 26
6:00 PM Charlotte Motor Speedway

JUNE 2019
Pocono 400
Sunday, Jun 2
2:00 PM Pocono Raceway

FireKeepers Casino 400
Sunday, Jun 9
2:00 PM Michigan International Speedway

Toyota / Save Mart 350
Sunday, Jun 23
3:00 PM Sonoma Raceway

Camping World 400
Sunday, Jun 30
3:00 PM Chicagoland Speedway

JULY 2019
Coke Zero Sugar 400
Saturday, Jul 6
7:30 PM Daytona International Speedway

Quaker State 400 Presented by Walmart
Saturday, Jul 13
7:30 PM Kentucky Speedway

Foxwoods Resort Casino 301
Sunday, Jul 21
3:00 PM New Hampshire Motor Speedway

Gander Outdoors 400
Sunday, Jul 28
3:00 PM Pocono Raceway

AUGUST 2019
Go Bowling at The Glen
Sunday, Aug 4
3:00 PM Watkins Glen International

Consumers Energy 400
Sunday, Aug 11
3:00 PM Michigan International Speedway

Bass Pro Shops NRA Night Race
Saturday, Aug 17
7:30 PM Bristol Motor Speedway

SEPTEMBER 2019*PLAYOFF RACE
Bojangles’ Southern 500
Sunday, Sep 1
6:00 PM Darlington Raceway

Big Machine Vodka 400 at the Brickyard Powered By Florida Georgia Line
Sunday, Sep 8
2:00 PM Indianapolis Motor Speedway

*South Point 400
Sunday, Sep 15
7:00 PM Las Vegas Motor Speedway

*Federated Auto Parts 400
Saturday, Sep 21
7:30 PM Richmond Raceway

*Bank of America ROVAL 400
Sunday, Sep 29
2:30 PM Charlotte Motor Speedway Road Course

OCTOBER 2019*PLAYOFF RACE
*Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series Race at Dover
Sunday, Oct 6
2:30 PM Dover International Speedway

*1000Bulbs.com 500
Sunday, Oct 13
2:00 PM Talladega Superspeedway

*Hollywood Casino 400
Sunday, Oct 20
2:30 PM Kansas Speedway

*First Data 500
Sunday, Oct 27
3:00 PM Martinsville Speedway

NOVEMBER 2019*PLAYOFF RACE
*AAA Texas 500
Sunday, Nov 3
3:00 PM Texas Motor Speedway

*Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series Race at ISM Raceway
Sunday, Nov 10
2:30 PM ISM Raceway

*Ford EcoBoost 400
Sunday, Nov 17
3:00 PM Homestead-Miami Speedway


Jimmie Johnson and Chad Knaus split up. With Knaus going to William Byron. Kevin Meendering goes to Jimmie Johnson. Lowes has also exited.
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ptlyon 02:19 PM 06-25-2020
God damn Sam, she is! :-)
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stumppy 02:21 PM 06-25-2020
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
I’ve never worked really worked on cars, but isn’t that rope awful clean? After at least a year, shouldn’t it be covered in grease and oil?
Considering how well those cars are taken care on then, no. You could probably eat off the engine in any of those cars.
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DJ's left nut 02:26 PM 06-25-2020
Originally Posted by ptlyon:
God damn Sam, she is! :-)
Always something though. Keep getting it reeeaaaaal close to where i want it and then missing. The new steering box last year I was sure was going to have it perfect but it's fucking STIFF and it's not adjustable because I overbought. It's designed for harder driving than I'll ever put it through so I can either drop another $600 on it or just deal with it.

And it has a fuel pickup issue now where if I'm below half a tank and take a turn with any degree of aggression, the motor falls off. It's acting like it's starving and it wouldn't make a lot of sense that it's the fuel injection if it's only when I turn but I'd also think there'd be enough fuel in the lines that it shouldn't make an impact immediately after the turn either. That one's got me completely dumbfounded. Could be a safety cutoff in the fuel pump that I'm unaware of. This is the inherent danger in being semi-mechanically inclined but not at all experienced. I'll try some shit, make it worse and then it sits in the garage for 4 months until I can get my shadetree mechanic to make a bay somewhere for me and he'll fix it when he has time.

It also has an ignition thing where sometimes it just won't fire. I can live with the other shit but I don't trust that ignition one damn bit at the moment and haven't found the time to replace it. I don't feel like leaving the car at a softball complex overnight because it finally decided to give up the ghost on me.

Love that car but it's a money-pit. They ALL are unless you have a frame-off restoration done at the cost of a small house. Considering a souped up Camry costs more than the car and everything I've done/had done to it, I'm willing to deal with the occasional gremlins.
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staylor26 02:33 PM 06-25-2020
TMZ saying it was a noose

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tmz...cnn-don-lemon/
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Warpaint69 02:40 PM 06-25-2020
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Always something though. Keep getting it reeeaaaaal close to where i want it and then missing. The new steering box last year I was sure was going to have it perfect but it's ****ing STIFF and it's not adjustable because I overbought. It's designed for harder driving than I'll ever put it through so I can either drop another $600 on it or just deal with it.

And it has a fuel pickup issue now where if I'm below half a tank and take a turn with any degree of aggression, the motor falls off. It's acting like it's starving and it wouldn't make a lot of sense that it's the fuel injection if it's only when I turn but I'd also think there'd be enough fuel in the lines that it shouldn't make an impact immediately after the turn either. That one's got me completely dumbfounded. Could be a safety cutoff in the fuel pump that I'm unaware of. This is the inherent danger in being semi-mechanically inclined but not at all experienced. I'll try some shit, make it worse and then it sits in the garage for 4 months until I can get my shadetree mechanic to make a bay somewhere for me and he'll fix it when he has time.

It also has an ignition thing where sometimes it just won't fire. I can live with the other shit but I don't trust that ignition one damn bit at the moment and haven't found the time to replace it. I don't feel like leaving the car at a softball complex overnight because it finally decided to give up the ghost on me.

Love that car but it's a money-pit. They ALL are unless you have a frame-off restoration done at the cost of a small house. Considering a souped up Camry costs more than the car and everything I've done/had done to it, I'm willing to deal with the occasional gremlins.
Whats it have for a distributor? HEI? Does it happen after everything is at temperature, go to start and nothing?
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R Clark 02:42 PM 06-25-2020
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
What in the actual **** are you talking about? Are you in such a damn bubble that you believe every garage door has an opener on it? And yes, if it's a door that you use with any frequency at all, you put a damn rope on it so you don't have to bend down and grab it AND so you can pull it back to stop when it gets up over your head.

You're just throwing off raw ignorance left, right and center here. Like I said - this discussion at least requires the life skills of a 12 year old and if you don't have the sense to know that yes, a SHITLOAD of garage doors are opened and closed by a damn rope, you really should just tap out of this discussion altogether.

They've never wavered on it being a noose because they ALL have their asses in the same sling right now. NASCAR ran with this stupid half-cocked bullshit at the same time Wallace did. They're all trying to cover their tails for looking like a bunch of race-baiting charlatans.

I'm saying they haven't pulled on it because the 'casual' shots that are supposed to be dispositive show a full loop. I'm saying that if the rope was used even a single time, that knot would've just come shut - at best it would be some little gnarled end where it popped a dudes fingers and it could've easily come undone altogether. It wouldn't be that nice perfect little loop that it shows in the pictures.

Unless, of course, it's a locked loop knot. Because of COURSE it is a locked loop knot. One that provides a nice handle to pull a door open/shut and is then hung on said loop when you shut the door so you don't have to lean down to pick it up.

Someone's never worked outdoors a day in his life, has he? I'm a soft as soft !@#$ing gets these days but I spent my formative years working on a ranch/farm and yes, we have loop knots out there. They're damn handy for getting a garage door to it's end point - it gets up over your head, you grab the loop and you drag backwards to make sure it drags all the way to stop (because if it doesn't, a tractor smokes it when you're parking it or it falls on someone's head if the weight shifts.)

Or maybe it's that string of really unlikely things suggested by the dude that thinks ropes aren't used to open garages.

Man - know when you're beaten. This is just kicking a retarded kid at this point.
Lol glad you posted this ,talk about getting on last nerve. they just can’t get over the fact that this wasn’t a racist thing happening
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DJ's left nut 02:51 PM 06-25-2020
Originally Posted by Warpaint69:
Whats it have for a distributor? HEI? Does it happen after everything is at temperature, go to start and nothing?
It's that same MSD setup you see just about everywhere:

https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/4000...SABEgKQavD_BwE

It's a pretty basic 383 stroker so it's not complicated; basically a simple small block setup - just need a damn spark to go bang and sometimes I just get a 'click' and that's that. It's more prone to doing it when it's been sitting, even just for a few hours during the day.

Since it's getting worse, it's getting parked until I put my head in there and confirm.

Since I'm not getting any turnover or anything but the electrical all seems fine, I think it's just not getting the signal sent.
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Dartgod 03:00 PM 06-25-2020
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
It's that same MSD setup you see just about everywhere:

https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/4000...SABEgKQavD_BwE

It's a pretty basic 383 stroker so it's not complicated; basically a simple small block setup - just need a damn spark to go bang and sometimes I just get a 'click' and that's that. It's more prone to doing it when it's been sitting, even just for a few hours during the day.

Since it's getting worse, it's getting parked until I put my head in there and confirm.

Since I'm not getting any turnover or anything but the electrical all seems fine, I think it's just not getting the signal sent.
Wow, those things don't appear to have changed since I had one on my '72 El Camino 30+ years ago.
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Warpaint69 03:00 PM 06-25-2020
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
It's that same MSD setup you see just about everywhere:

https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/4000...SABEgKQavD_BwE

It's a pretty basic 383 stroker so it's not complicated; basically a simple small block setup - just need a damn spark to go bang and sometimes I just get a 'click' and that's that. It's more prone to doing it when it's been sitting, even just for a few hours during the day.

Since it's getting worse, it's getting parked until I put my head in there and confirm.

Since I'm not getting any turnover or anything but the electrical all seems fine, I think it's just not getting the signal sent.
If it was a no start after getting driven, then I'd tell you to switch the 4 pin module. If the module quits, you got zero fire. We run a similar ignition box in our dirt track cars, never had an issue with the box itself. So, when you turn the key the starter just clicks? I'd lean towards the starter solenoid. Is the starter a mini starter or a original style? With our mini starters in the race cars we run a relay, those relays are about junk anymore.
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DJ's left nut 03:08 PM 06-25-2020
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
Wow, those things don't appear to have changed since I had one on my '72 El Camino 30+ years ago.
Yeah, far as I can tell they're pretty much industry standard and have been for decades. That's why warpaint caught me flat-footed.

"uh...shit if I know - the one EVERYONE has?"

But not he's got me curious so I'll go look at the wiring to confirm when I get home. I suppose it's possible they threw that 2-wire rig in there but I'm not sure why they would've.

But ultimately my position on electricity is that it's magic and only wizards truly understand it so if I can't bolt/unbolt and fix it, it's off to see my boy Mitch who will probably have it for a month and charge me a can of skoal to fix it or something.

I friggen hate electrical work. I went and found the original wiring diagram once when my hideaway doors weren't working, got in there and realized there's nothing original to that thing and I'm nowhere near smart enough to figure it out. Took it in to have it fixed and he told me the wires had melted back to the relays somehow and I'm lucky I didn't burn my house down. Evidently the doors didn't make it back to the cutoff switch so the engines just ran until they burned up and somehow those wires just melted away.

Old cars do weird shit, man. Over the decade or so I've had that car, I've had to come to grips with my limitations and that friggen car points 'em out in a hurry...
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DJ's left nut 03:14 PM 06-25-2020
Originally Posted by Warpaint69:
If it was a no start after getting driven, then I'd tell you to switch the 4 pin module. We run a similar ignition box in our dirt track cars, never had an issue with the box itself. So, when you turn the key the starter just clicks?
Yup. Sometimes I can turn it a second time and it fires, sometimes I can turn it 20 times and the my radio says "just take the truck, moron..."

I guess it could be the starter motor? I've had some pretty fun experiences in disphittery there including raining sparks on myself trying to bypass it with a screwdriver and eventually replacing 3 starter motors only to realize I had the !@#$ing thing in neutral so the safety switch was killing it.

But by God, I can change a starter motor quick as a hiccup now. Because...idiot. Undeniably the dumbest thing I've done. Ratchet shifters will get you every time...
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Pitt Gorilla 03:21 PM 06-25-2020
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
A) I don't believe that.

B) Even if I were to take him at face value, that's a huge indictment in its own right. What the hell is he doing riding the media circuit if he hasn't even bothered to see the alleged 'noose'? Why the crocodile tears if it had such little impact on him that he never said "hey guys - anyone take a picture of that thing?"

Wallace should absolutely come out of this looking like a shitheel.
You seem awfully invested in how you think everyone else should view Wallace.

Clearly, HE should have known it wasn't a noose, especially given that:

"In a Thursday conference call with reporters, NASCAR President Steve Phelps said investigators conducted a thorough sweep of all garage areas across the tracks where NASCAR races. That's 29 tracks and 1,684 garage stalls. 44 of them are at Talladega. Phelps said they found only 11 stalls using a pull down rope tied in a knot. And only one was tied into a noose – the one discovered in Wallace's garage."
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jdubya 03:23 PM 06-25-2020
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
You seem awfully invested in how you think everyone else should view Wallace.

Clearly, HE should have known it wasn't a noose, especially given that:

"In a Thursday conference call with reporters, NASCAR President Steve Phelps said investigators conducted a thorough sweep of all garage areas across the tracks where NASCAR races. That's 29 tracks and 1,684 garage stalls. 44 of them are at Talladega. Phelps said they found only 11 stalls using a pull down rope tied in a knot. And only one was tied into a noose – the one discovered in Wallace's garage."
So are you saying the FBI is not to be trusted?
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Pitt Gorilla 03:24 PM 06-25-2020
Originally Posted by jdubya:
So are you saying the FBI is not to be trusted?
I don't recall saying anything about the FBI.
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vailpass 03:27 PM 06-25-2020
Originally Posted by Al Bundy:
I know I've never seen a pull down rope like that in any of the over one hundred garages I have been in. I've never been in a Nascar garage though. Maybe they all have them.
Seems legit.
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