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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Bowser 09:21 AM 04-28-2020
As of this morning around KC proper -

Jackson County - 500 cases, 15 deaths
Clay County - 68 cases, 1 death
Platte County - 31 cases, 0 deaths

St. Louis -

St. Louis - 2,897 cases, 137 deaths
St. Louis City - 1,097 cases, 54 deaths
St. Charles County - 543 cases, 27 deaths

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Corona...3d&FORM=COVIDR
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FloridaMan88 09:23 AM 04-28-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
What if we never get a vaccine?
And that is a very real possibility.

People seem to overlook the fact that there has never been a viable/scalable vaccine for any type of human coronavirus since this family of virus was discovered in humans 60 years ago.

SARS, MERS, even the common cold... no FDA approved vaccine in 60 years.
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2112 09:25 AM 04-28-2020
Health care workers taking a beating here. My buddy’s wife is a nurse and she comes home from a 14 hour shift and her hair is falling out from the stress. I wear that mask for 15 minutes to go shopping and I can’t fucking breathe. Can you imagine working all day with that thing on?
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Bugeater 09:25 AM 04-28-2020
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
The point is more that transmission doesn't just occur in the confines of a home. It is more likely there due to time and proximity, but it's far from the only place this virus gets spread, and that's true regardless of who the carrier is.
Ah, I gotcha. I do wonder how many people are paying close enough attention to this to truly understand the exponential spread involved with it.
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Monticore 09:28 AM 04-28-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
And that is a very real possibility.

People seem to overlook the fact that there has never been a viable/scalable vaccine for any type of human coronavirus since this family of virus was discovered in humans 60 years ago.

SARS, MERS, even the common cold... no FDA approved vaccine in 60 years.
SARS and MERS went away and the cost associated with developing one wasn’t feasible . Also science has improved (excluding predicting the future) so there is hope.
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Bugeater 09:29 AM 04-28-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
Inflammatory damage to the body is not always seen instantly. Who knows if covid damage done in a young person today doesn’t come back to haunt then down the road .
If only young people cared about shit like that....


Old person talking to young me: Hey, you shouldn't smoke, you'll regret it when you're 50.


Young me: lol whatever...go away old person..
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Marcellus 09:30 AM 04-28-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
Inflammatory damage to the body is not always seen instantly. Who knows if covid damage done in a young person today doesn’t come back to haunt then down the road .
You doctors just love doom and gloom shit.
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Discuss Thrower 09:34 AM 04-28-2020
Originally Posted by Bowser:
As of this morning around KC proper -

Jackson County - 500 cases, 15 deaths
Clay County - 68 cases, 1 death
Platte County - 31 cases, 0 deaths
Johnson County KS - 446 cases, 46 deaths
Wyandotte County KS - 581 cases, 53 deaths
Douglas County KS 49 cases, ? deaths

~Totals 1675 cases, 115 deaths

St. Louis -

St. Louis - 2,897 cases, 137 deaths
St. Louis City - 1,097 cases, 54 deaths
St. Charles County - 543 cases, 27 deaths

~Totals 4537 cases, 218 deaths

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Corona...3d&FORM=COVIDR
Kansas City's broader metro area is roughly 80% of the population of St. Louis's.

Shouldn't their case numbers be a lot closer?
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FloridaMan88 09:34 AM 04-28-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
SARS and MERS went away and the cost associated with developing one wasn’t feasible . Also science has improved (excluding predicting the future) so there is hope.
"Hope" is not a realistic strategy for large scale events, restaurants, gyms, haircut establishments and other businesses that some want to remain closed or at reduced capacity until there is a vaccine.

There may not be a scalable/effective vaccine for several years or ever.

Herd immunity is a more realistic strategy.
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Monticore 09:35 AM 04-28-2020
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
If only young people cared about shit like that....


Old person talking to young me: Hey, you shouldn't smoke, you'll regret it when you're 50.


Young me: lol whatever...go away old person..
My could have died from RSV as a newborn ( severe apnea spells), he is lucky that he only developed mild exercises induced asthma, is it possible he would have developed it anyways who knows but we made damn sure nobody and near our second son for months after his birth.
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Monticore 09:37 AM 04-28-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
"Hope" is not a realistic strategy for large scale events, restaurants, gyms, haircut establishments and other businesses that some want to remain closed or at reduced capacity until there is a vaccine.

There may not be a scalable/effective vaccine for several years or ever.

Herd immunity is a more realistic strategy.
Immunity doesn’t last for ever, and could re-infection make symptoms worse or milder.
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Monticore 09:39 AM 04-28-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
You doctors just love doom and gloom shit.
I’m am not a doctor but I consider myself a realist lol. When I buy an item I like to know the negatives as well so I can make an informed decision.
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notorious 09:40 AM 04-28-2020
We all know this is going to pass through just about everyone, eventually. People will die, and it sucks, but we can't hide from this forever.

By isolating ourselves we've given the hospitals a chance to take in the people that need care at a somewhat controlled rate. By some miracle a vaccine will be developed (not holding my breath) that will protect everyone.


It is possible.......sit down for this........that both sides of the argument are correct. Distancing and herd mentality work.
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dirk digler 09:42 AM 04-28-2020
From the CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...asting-us.html



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Marcellus 09:43 AM 04-28-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
From the CDC


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...asting-us.html


Covid models are the 2020 meme.
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