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LongSufferingToady 01:14 PM 11-15-2019
The US Navy canceled a routine Black Sea patrol after Trump complained that it was hostile to Russia

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-n...russia-2019-11

Christopher Anderson, an aide to former Special Envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker, testified that the White House canceled a Navy freedom-of-navigation operation in the Black Sea after President Donald Trump complained to then-national security adviser John Bolton about a CNN report that framed the operation as a counter to Russia, Politico reported.

According to Anderson's testimony, the news report in question came from CNN and characterized the operation as antagonistic toward Russia. Anderson testified that Trump called Bolton at home to complain about the article, and the operation was later canceled at the behest of the White House, Anderson said.

"In January, there was an effort to get a routine freedom-of-navigation operation into the Black Sea," Anderson testified. "There was a freedom-of-navigation operation for the Navy. So we — we, the US government — notified the Turkish government that there was this intent."

While Anderson in his testimony placed the report in January, details from his testimony match a story from early December, which had the headline "US makes preparations to sail warship into the Black Sea amid Russia-Ukraine tensions."

Anderson said the White House asked the Navy to cancel the freedom-of-navigation operation because the report portrayed the operation as a move to counter Russia, which has increased its naval presence there since annexing Crimea in 2014. In November 2018, its forces attacked Ukrainian assets transiting the Kerch Strait, which connects the Black Sea with the Azov Sea. Russia seized three Ukrainian ships and held 24 Ukrainian service members captive.

"We met with Ambassador Bolton and discussed this, and he made it clear that the president had called him to complain about that news report. And that may have just been that he was surprised," Anderson said.

"We don't — I can't speculate as to why, but that, that operation, was canceled, but then we were able to get a second one for later in February. And we had an Arleigh-class destroyer arrive in Odessa on the fifth anniversary of the Crimea invasion."

The White House did not respond to Insider's requests for comment. US 6th Fleet did not address Black Sea transits in December 2018, but said all operations in January and February of 2019 went according to schedule.

"U.S. 6th Fleet conducted our naval operations in the Black Sea region as scheduled in January and February 2019. The U.S. Navy will continue to operate in the Black Sea consistent with international law, to include the Montreaux Convention," according to spokesman Cmdr. Kyle Raines.
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Coyote 09:43 PM 11-15-2019
You might want to pay attention to this part of the quote and story:

The Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits is a 1936 agreement that gives Turkey control over the Turkish Straits (the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits) and regulates the transit of naval warships. The Convention gives Turkey full control over the Turkish Straits and guarantees the free passage of civilian vessels in peacetime. It restricts the passage of naval ships not belonging to Black Sea states.

The Black Sea is a pond to be trapped in. Maintained through many means. We only put “little boys” ( Destroyers) in there for “presence” and to prove we can. In compliance with the convention.
The straits are the key.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montre...of_the_Straits
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patteeu 10:32 PM 11-15-2019
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
No that's the pretense, which you always fall for Donger-With A-War Boner.
The Russians view that like we do our Gulf of Mexico. Any Russian ships come in ours, you can bet we'd be screaming.

Not surprisingly, it took a provocation of war thread to get you off impeachment. Can't make it up! :-)
Do you remember any screaming back in July?

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...estroyer-69287
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Easy 6 11:27 PM 11-15-2019
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Yup its Dave Lane.
Agreed, you can just smell it
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SuperBowl4 11:32 PM 11-15-2019
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Agreed, you can just smell it
Smells like TRUMP spirit
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Coyote 08:35 AM 11-16-2019
Originally Posted by patteeu:
Do you remember any screaming back in July?

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...estroyer-69287
The Russians have used electro-optical weapons at sea since the 1980s. They have generally targeted our sensors but the human is the sensor.

Then, lasers to overwhelm our EO sensors and collaterally dazzle or damage the pilot’s or operators eyes. All of our visors and sensors have “filters,” so go after the human sensor more specifically. Many of our sensors at extended ranges are no longer magnifiers (direct view optics or Dvo) but some form of E-O.

“The system interferes with the enemy rifleman or gunner's ability to*aim correctly, to the extent that it may cause some hallucinatory symptoms...”


https://sputniknews.com/military/201...eapon-details/

Opinion: Their missiles across the board are generally good to better than ours but their sensors are much worse. The effect is to greatly limit their ranges.

We (USMC Attack pilots) brought F-pole to ground to ground missiles and air to ground missiles from the air to air fight.


F-Pole is Fighter polar Plot. 2 guys fire at each other at the same time. Which wins? Kinematics. Sensors. Type of command link. Fire and forget, (active seekers) etc. We just short handed it to “Poling” the bandit.

Likely more info than you cared about. Their missiles are generally faster.

A great combo would be Russian aircraft and missiles with a US glass cockpit and Avionics/ fire control.
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Bowser 10:39 AM 11-16-2019
I bet Trump had smoked salmon and stroganoff this week at some point, too. GET MUELLER ON THE FUCKING HORN RIGHT THIS SECOND
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D2112 05:26 AM 11-17-2019
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor:
When is he going to jail this time Lex? We should rename you Otis
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