Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
Explain the existence of "Old" Cap? if it's an alternate timeline. If it splinters from a "616" continuity for example
After he'd lived his life, he might have "warped" back to the present. They showed earlier in the movie that they could warp between times without going back to the big crazy machine. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace: After he'd lived his life, he might have "warped" back to the present.They showed earlier in the movie that they could warp between times without going back to the big crazy machine.
This element of assumption time travel is what bothers me. If killing "past" Nebula exists in another timeline then how does Cap exist in the same manner. I'm cool with Cap staying away from the action to live his life with Peggy to be a stay at home husband but the Nebula deviation is the paradox that kills the mingling between Old Cap and Falcon if he is descending from a different reality. [Reply]
Originally Posted by listopencil:
They explained that, indirectly, with the mocking of previous time travel movies and other conversational tidbits. They (the characters) followed the standard in-universe space/time laws right up until they reversed the original snap of Thanos. Reversing the snap caused Time to manifest as a universal force that attempted to invalidate the snap reversal. From the snap reversal on forward chronologically in the movie the time stream had been reset, and everything after it became new fixed points in time, with some critical events from before the snap reversal possibly entangled into the new time stream. It is certainly possible though that Nebula is now a combination of the new "good" and old "evil" Nebula as they shared minds.
Disagree. They didn't just reverse the snap they brought all that we're snapped to present time. 5 years later. Technically all of spideys friends graduated. This was Tony's wish. He wanted his daughter. Reversing the snap would have erased them all.
Also disagree on merged minds. If that were the case gamorra would have had memories. [Reply]
Well, the fact that Thanos and his whole crew died before Infinity War is probably a bigger problem. To me everything points to the past timelines actually being alternate universes except old Cap showing up at the end.
On the other hand this could be early setup for the next thing. Something like Infinity/Secret Wars arc, where time travel paradoxes are causing the multiverse to collapse in on itself. Also the whole thing the Ancient Ones goes into about how removing one Infinity Stone fucks up the timeline, and they now live in a universe with zero Infinity stones. [Reply]
-why didn’t they use the time stone to bring Tony back to life? Thanos did that with Vision in IW
-Tony gets a big funeral but Natasha doesn’t? Damn
-is Loki still alive in an alternate timeline? [Reply]
The SJW shit was so cringe worthy and obvious. Thor was the best. Made the whole movie. Everything else went exactly as the majority thought it would. Deaths and Staying in the past. Solid ending to an epic phase of a monstrous franchise. IDK if I care enough to watch anything after GotG and Spidey in the future.
Originally Posted by Carr4MVP:
How does the old Cap stuff work in the timeline?
Him living in the universe's past is his present/future. Younger him still did everything he did in his past. So nothing is changed that way.
What may be changed is Peggy Carter's present. They may have retconned her entire origin with SHIELD. Or not, because maybe she still does the exact same thing
And who knows, he may have done some heroic things on his own between the 50s and his reappearance. Just...hidden.
I'm not gonna spend too much time thinking about it. It was a nice coda after the sadness of the funeral. [Reply]
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
Him living in the universe's past is his present/future. Younger him still did everything he did in his past. So nothing is changed that way.
What may be changed is Peggy Carter's present. They may have retconned her entire origin with SHIELD. Or not, because maybe she still does the exact same thing
And who knows, he may have done some heroic things on his own between the 50s and his reappearance. Just...hidden.
I'm not gonna spend too much time thinking about it. It was a nice, happy coda after the sadness of the future.
What about his actions with the Avengers? If he was never frozen, then how does that work? [Reply]