Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
SPOILER ALERT: THIS IS ALL MY OWN THEORY... but...
In one of the new cannon books, Palpatine has an underground base on Jakku #fact. If you watch TLJ with the idea in mind that Rey is a genetic experiment created from Luke's missing hand on Bespin, it's EVERYWHERE. The movie has closeup after closeup of Rey's right hand in key moments. Enough so that they'll look like easter eggs (to enjoy after the big reveal in Episode IX).
The very first moment in TLJ trailer was a clue. I think the entire mirror scene IS her realizing her worst fear, that she IS a clone and has no family. Her "parents" that sold her off for drinking money were indeed just that... scavengers that found Luke's hand and sold it to the Empire.
I'm just as psycho about Star Wars as all of you, and I remember the very first draft leaks and rumored outline of the The Force Awakens (at that time) started with Luke's hand floating through space after the opening crawl. TFA's first draft was going to be about Finn & Rey finding Luke's hand... I just think they switched it up and realized that could be a big reveal. My 2 cents, I think Rey also has Palpatine genes in her DNA milkshake. Because she always fights with anger (among other reasons).
This also "solves the problem" of her being too powerful, too soon. Kylo Ren clearly knows about "A GIRL" in TFA and is upset. He seems to go straight into trying to turn her let her know "she needs a teacher" because he has an idea of who she is and where she comes from. I haven't watched TFA for a long time but I would wonder if her hand is as called out in there as well...
There are about 20 other shots of exclusively her right hand in TLJ, as well as close ups of Luke's right hand and even Kylo Ren's. There's a huge right-hand theme there.
You need to work up a quick presentation and post this theory up on You Tube. I did a search there and at Google; NOTHING on a SW EPI 9 Hand Theory.
Let 'er rip; this could be your chance to shock the world! [Reply]
Your theory sounds about as good as anything I've read on Rey, Clay. I never quite understood her "dark side" encounter with her looking at an infinity mirror; maybe the Force is trying to tell her she's an anomaly? But then, why didn't Luke immediately "feel" her as a part of himself and/or Palpatine when he turned the Force back on (gag)? Eh, whatever.
But good job catching the right hand references. No doubt that means "something".... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Your theory sounds about as good as anything I've read on Rey, Clay. I never quite understood her "dark side" encounter with her looking at an infinity mirror; maybe the Force is trying to tell her she's an anomaly? But then, why didn't Luke immediately "feel" her as a part of himself and/or Palpatine when he turned the Force back on (gag)? Eh, whatever.
But good job catching the right hand references. No doubt that means "something"....
I mean, you hope it does.
I also hope the Knights of Ren sole purpose wasn't a throwaway line in the first movie. That's a problem you run into when you don't plan out all 3 movies in advance. I love Clay's theory - and would be ALL about it. It'd be a great way to continue and honor the Skywalker legacy, one that's taken a hit since the reboot. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
I mean, you hope it does.
I also hope the Knights of Ren sole purpose wasn't a throwaway line in the first movie. That's a problem you run into when you don't plan out all 3 movies in advance. I love Clay's theory - and would be ALL about it. It'd be a great way to continue and honor the Skywalker legacy, one that's taken a hit since the reboot.
Yeah, agreed with all of that.
Wasn't there a rumor floated that Snoke's Praetorian Guard were the Knights of Ren? Would make sense, considering how Rey and Kylo wiped them out (legitimately one of the best scenes in TLJ, but it would just fit the narrative if that was them). [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
There's a guy out there editing The Last Jedi in it's entirety.
There are two big surprises in this trailer.
Well shit. That was better than the film. It's amazing what reversing one part of a scene can do. Seeing Luke pass the lightsaber back to Rey would have been an iconic moment, a literal passing of a torch, but instead, they literally chucked that shit off a cliff. [Reply]
Originally Posted by bowener:
Well shit. That was better than the film. It's amazing what reversing one part of a scene can do. Seeing Luke pass the lightsaber back to Rey would have been an iconic moment, a literal passing of a torch, but instead, they literally chucked that shit off a cliff.
{facepalm}
Ugghhhh......fuck that movie, man.
Still just in awe of what a remarkable piece of shit that was. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Yeah, I'm looking forward to Episode IX and the Super Bowl equally.
Just watching that re-cut trailer I was reminded about how many ungodly awful things that movie did.
I'm serious - did anything in that movie not suck? I mean I guess if I had the wherewithal to watch it again I might remember a time or two where I was like "Oh yeah, at least THAT was cool...." but I can't think of many occasions where literally every lasting memory I have of a movie is negative.
Oh wait!!! The silence when purple haired general crashes into an imperial destroyer. That little blip was visually and audibly just cool as hell. So yeah - almost an entire 1/2 minute of that movie didn't actively suck dicks. [Reply]
