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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Conservatives, do you support the DNC’s 16’ and 20’ efforts to derail Bernie
Chiefspants 10:45 PM 02-25-2020
Honest reacts only
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Eleazar 12:23 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl:
Bernies popularity shouldn't be any surprise at all.

When asked if they favor socialism or capitalism 49% of all millenials favor socialism compared to 39% of Genx and 32% of baby boomers.

But when asked if they favor free enterprise or big biz 83% of millenials favor free enterprise.

It's real simple: Millenials have been manipulated by the MSM, hollywood, schools & universities to such an extent they don't understand what they're really voting for or against.
The same thing happened with higher education. We let public education at all levels drill into young people's minds that college education is a requirement for life, then we told the government to loan money to pay for it to anyone at very low interest, then we let higher ed jack the prices up into the stratosphere - and then we wonder why college students believe it should all be free.
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Chiefspants 12:27 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan27:
I understand the sentiment, but I'm not really sure what you're suggesting here in reality. The DNC doesn't have the power to influence the process in that way and the other candidates aren't going to sacrifice their campaigns for the greater good of the theoretically most viable non Sanders candidate.
The DNC absolutely intervened to keep Biden out of the race in 2016 (and worked to undercut Bernie’s campaign to boot) and made some sort of arrangement with Obama in order to give him enough of Hillary’s superdelegates in 2008 for him to clinch the nom. The DNC has arranged things like this before, which makes me think they’re hoping for another outcome.

Allowing people like Bloomin’ Onion in so late in the game to further distort the Dems field is a horrendous strategy. At the very least, they could have stopped him at the gate.
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vailpass 12:51 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Loneiguana:
The GOP has only won the popular vote once in 30 years. And you guys finally went full insane after 40byeara of flirting with it.

America is about to see why the GOP is so obsessed with suppressing voter turnout.

/a coward who only posts lame responses is saying other runs away... lol
EC is for winners.
PV gets you a participation trophy.
I thought you guys liked those.
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Bump 12:52 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Otter:
And just what legal voters who actually have the right to vote in the AMERICAN system are being suppressed?
you see, these libshits want to call you a racist while claiming that people of color are simply too stupid to understand how to acquire an identification card. Then you realize that their only strategy that they've ever had and ever will have, is projection.
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NJChiefsFan27 12:57 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
The DNC absolutely intervened to keep Biden out of the race in 2016 (and worked to undercut Bernie’s campaign to boot) and made some sort of arrangement with Obama in order to give him enough of Hillary’s superdelegates in 2008 for him to clinch the nom. The DNC has arranged things like this before, which makes me think they’re hoping for another outcome.

Allowing people like Bloomin’ Onion in so late in the game to further distort the Dems field is a horrendous strategy. At the very least, they could have stopped him at the gate.
There were a lot of factors for why Biden didn't run in 2016. I don't think the DNC explicitly told him not to run but there was certainly the narrative that it was Hillary's "turn" and that we needed a woman in office and the idea of running a fierce campaign against another establishment favorite in the wake of his son's death may not have seemed appealing. As for the superdelegates flipping to Obama, that's a result of Obama winning what, 10-11 primaries in a row? It wasn't that the DNC sent out some sort of memo for superdelegates to flip their vote. It was Obama demonstrating that he was a better candidate than Hillary Clinton.

But if the DNC has any agency on who can run or who can stay in, I would agree their current strategy is a disaster. So either they really don't have that kind of influence or they are completely incompetent. I tend to think it's a mix of both.
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BigBeauford 12:58 PM 02-26-2020
Bernie deserves the nomination since the moderates cant seem to coalesce behind anyone. And if Bernie's ideas cannot overcome Trumpism, then clearly his ideas are a failure because up until this point, this would be the opponent to run this against.
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NJChiefsFan27 01:15 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
Bernie deserves the nomination since the moderates cant seem to coalesce behind anyone. And if Bernie's ideas cannot overcome Trumpism, then clearly his ideas are a failure because up until this point, this would be the opponent to run this against.
Lol, ok. When Hillary loses to Trump and a far left candidate beats a bunch of moderate Democrats that's not an indictment on their agenda, but if Bernie loses to an incumbent with a passionate base as the corporate class fear mongers about his candidacy at every turn, then his ideas are a "failure." Cool story bro.
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vailpass 01:26 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan27:
Lol, ok. When Hillary loses to Trump and a far left candidate beats a bunch of moderate Democrats that's not an indictment on their agenda, but if Bernie loses to an incumbent with a passionate base as the corporate class fear mongers about his candidacy at every turn, then his ideas are a "failure." Cool story bro.
If Bernie does not get the nomination do you intend to vote for whoever the Dem candidate ends up being?
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alpha_omega 01:27 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by cosmo20002:
You're asking if conservatives support something the DNC is (allegedly) doing?
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Pretty sure i wouldn't support just about anything they are doing.
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BigBeauford 01:28 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan27:
Lol, ok. When Hillary loses to Trump and a far left candidate beats a bunch of moderate Democrats that's not an indictment on their agenda, but if Bernie loses to an incumbent with a passionate base as the corporate class fear mongers about his candidacy at every turn, then his ideas are a "failure." Cool story bro.
Trump is an absolute trash fire to most people outside of his 30%. I cant imagine a much more awful president and person. I am very much excited to defeat him, even if its Bernie. But him beating a terrible field of candidates in primary voting is not that much of an accomplishment, compared to trying to win a GE, and I think his movement losing to Trump would say a lot about its place in American society.
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Just Passin' By 01:29 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
Bernie deserves the nomination since the moderates cant seem to coalesce behind anyone. And if Bernie's ideas cannot overcome Trumpism, then clearly his ideas are a failure because up until this point, this would be the opponent to run this against.



The fake libertarian is going to vote for the socialist.

:-)
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NJChiefsFan27 01:29 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by vailpass:
If Bernie does not get the nomination do you intend to vote for whoever the Dem candidate ends up being?
You've already asked me this and I've already answered it.
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Bump 01:31 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan27:
Lol, ok. When Hillary loses to Trump and a far left candidate beats a bunch of moderate Democrats that's not an indictment on their agenda, but if Bernie loses to an incumbent with a passionate base as the corporate class fear mongers about his candidacy at every turn, then his ideas are a "failure." Cool story bro.
Funny enough, the corporate class that you mention is what you worship in the end.
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Raiderhader 01:34 PM 02-26-2020
I’ve debated this in my mind and I think I’ve come to the conclusion that I am all for the DNC screwing Bernie over if they can. That should help to intensify the civil war in that party. And that is what I decided to be the best outcome.
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NJChiefsFan27 01:34 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
Trump is an absolute trash fire to most people outside of his 30%. I cant imagine a much more awful president and person. I am very much excited to defeat him, even if its Bernie. But him beating a terrible field of candidates in primary voting is not that much of an accomplishment, compared to trying to win a GE, and I think his movement losing to Trump would say a lot about its place in American society.
Hillary had an easy path to the nomination in 2016 given that Sanders was a relative unknown and the other candidates were a joke (even compared to this group) and she ended up losing despite the media cheerleading her candidacy. Nobody is sitting here saying that centrist Democratic policies can't win as a result of that.
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