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Fish 09:43 PM 05-21-2012
This is a repository for all cool scientific discussion and fascination. Scientific facts, theories, and overall cool scientific stuff that you'd like to share with others. Stuff that makes you smile and wonder at the amazing shit going on around us, that most people don't notice.

Post pictures, vidoes, stories, or links. Ask questions. Share science.

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GloryDayz 08:27 PM 03-09-2014
Originally Posted by Mr. Laz:
surprise somebody isn't protesting the Cosmos shows


science is teh devil's work
I'm more stunned that they aren't calling Neil an Uncle Tom for wasting money on science.
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J Diddy 08:36 PM 03-09-2014
Originally Posted by Mr. Laz:
surprise somebody isn't protesting the Cosmos shows


science is teh devil's work
I'm a little upset that I missed out. Hopefully they offer the first episode online.
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Baby Lee 08:44 PM 03-09-2014
Originally Posted by chefsos:
I'm assuming you guys will be watching Cosmos tonight? I will.

It'll be like science porn.
The most FUN book I ever listened too.



From fthe lever to quantum mechanics, it really covers it all. It was like 75 hours on audiobook.

If DGT manages a 1/10 of that book, it'll be phenomenal, and I have faith he will.

If anyone.
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Fat Elvis 09:01 PM 03-09-2014
Originally Posted by Mr. Laz:
surprise somebody isn't protesting the Cosmos shows


science is teh devil's work
I was pretty disappointed in it. Preachy as all hell. I kind of expect that from Seth MacFarland however.
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Baby Lee 09:09 PM 03-09-2014
Originally Posted by Dick Bull:
I'm a little upset that I missed out. Hopefully they offer the first episode online.
replays on National Geographic channel. on Monday.
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J Diddy 09:16 PM 03-09-2014
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
replays on National Geographic channel. on Monday.
I don't have that channel.

Thanks for the heads up though.
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Baby Lee 09:19 PM 03-09-2014
Originally Posted by Fat Elvis:
I was pretty disappointed in it. Preachy as all hell. I kind of expect that from Seth MacFarlane however.
I am only 45 min in, but I have to agree. The spaceship observer gambit, and the animations are not up to par. I urge everyone to listen to or read Bryson, who gets to the same places, but in a much more reasoned manner than NGT.

It is onerous, but it's a tale as good as GRRMartin ever devised, and so well told as to never lagged. It tells the same stories, but with the nuances and the rationales to the naysayers as to actually STRENGTHEN their tales. Of discovery and criticism.

I really thought NGT would hew closer to legitimate review than he did. But thus far it's falling into Veggie Tales territory.
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Fat Elvis 11:03 PM 03-09-2014
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
I am only 45 min in, but I have to agree. The spaceship observer gambit, and the animations are not up to par. I urge everyone to listen to or read Bryson, who gets to the same places, but in a much more reasoned manner than NGT.

It is onerous, but it's a tale as good as GRRMartin ever devised, and so well told as to never lagged. It tells the same stories, but with the nuances and the rationales to the naysayers as to actually STRENGTHEN their tales. Of discovery and criticism.

I really thought NGT would hew closer to legitimate review than he did. But thus far it's falling into Veggie Tales territory.
I've seen Jack Chick Tracts that were less preachy and more intellectually consistent than tonight's Cosmos. NGT and MacFarland just took a giant crap on Sagan tonight. I had really high hopes for this. Hopefully it will get better.
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alnorth 11:07 PM 03-09-2014
Originally Posted by Fat Elvis:
I've seen Jack Chick Tracts that were less preachy and more intellectually consistent than tonight's Cosmos. NGT and MacFarland just took a giant crap on Sagan tonight. I had really high hopes for this. Hopefully it will get better.
What exactly were you disappointed by? You seem to be in an incredibly tiny minority. You'll have to include Sagan's widow in that group too, I guess she took a crap on her late husband as well.

As far as preachiness or taking shots at pseudoscience, Sagan sternly did plenty of that, he just saved it for the 3rd or 4th episode rather than the first.
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alnorth 11:17 PM 03-09-2014
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
The spaceship observer gambit, and the animations are not up to par.
I don't know what you don't like about the spaceship, it was obviously a nod towards the spaceship in the original series, and I don't know that they could have done much of a better job rendering it.

As far as showing historical scenes, they actually discussed that in interviews. They did not want actors in powdered wigs again, and they didn't want a standard cartoon. They chose to illustrate them in the graphic novel style, and I think that style works well for a subject like this, cartoons seem a little more less-serious and more light-hearted to me. If you were hoping to see a cartoon or actors, you'll just have to get used to the choice they made, the graphic novel approach is a fine choice of artistic style.
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Mr. Plow 07:33 AM 03-10-2014
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
As cool as it is for my old ass, sitting here watching my nine-year-old watching with amazement is truly awesome!

THAT'S what I hope the primary goal of the show is, and if it is, it's working to a "T"!

My 8 & 9 year old boys sat there and loved it. Had to make my 8 year old go to bed halfway through and he was ticked because he wanted to watch it.
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Detoxing 10:02 AM 03-10-2014
The only issue i had with Cosmos is the the Spaceship CGI Fest. I didn't like the way it was executed. I could've done with out the emphasis on Neil's imaginary spaceship. Maybe if the CGI was better....but Neil looked so out of place with it.

The way they illustrated Galaxy clusters and Multiverses though.....Mind = Blown.

I got toked up to watch this and i was tripping bawls for a minute.....had never felt so insignificant in my life after watching the way they displayed Galaxies and Multiverses.
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keg in kc 11:18 AM 03-10-2014
Haven't watched it yet, but I've never been a big fan of deGrasse Tyson. To me he has always come across as as much condescending as he is brilliant, so I've never particularly enjoyed watching him. I'll still give it a look though.
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jiveturkey 11:54 AM 03-10-2014
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
Haven't watched it yet, but I've never been a big fan of deGrasse Tyson. To me he has always come across as as much condescending as he is brilliant, so I've never particularly enjoyed watching him. I'll still give it a look though.
Same here. I can stand him but his personality is a bit off.

There aren't very many science personalities that aren't totally awkward though. Sagan was a rare bird.
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alnorth 12:12 PM 03-10-2014
Originally Posted by jiveturkey:
Same here. I can stand him but his personality is a bit off.

There aren't very many science personalities that aren't totally awkward though. Sagan was a rare bird.
Yeah, scientists as a rule are not very.... "telegenic", to say the least.

Tyson is probably about as good as it gets right now, he's the only serious scientist with enough of a personality and sense of humor to be a frequent guest on evening talk shows.
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