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PAChiefsGuy 06:10 PM 01-19-2018
I always laugh when idiots on here act like J Houston not rushing the passer and going into coverage is always some huge mistake. Personally I think his pass rushing skills have taken a huge nosedive since his 22-sack season. Why? Idk but he is not the same guy to me.

J Houston has not been a consistently great pass rusher since his 22-sack season. He shows flashes here and there but that is about it. He was frequently blocked one-on-one this season and taken out of the play. If he did get a sack or some pressures he was simply chipped since we don't have another great pass rusher it is easy for other teams to do this.

Face it guys. Without another great edge rusher J Houston can be taken out of pass rushing situations easily by chipping him. Sending him into coverage isn't as big of a deal as people on here make it seem. I know in Madden always rushing J Houston is the smart thing to do but Sutton lives in the real world.
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TEX 01:21 PM 01-20-2018
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
I always laugh when idiots on here act like J Houston not rushing the passer and going into coverage is always some huge mistake. Personally I think his pass rushing skills have taken a huge nosedive since his 22-sack season. Why? Idk but he is not the same guy to me.

J Houston has not been a consistently great pass rusher since his 22-sack season. He shows flashes here and there but that is about it. He was frequently blocked one-on-one this season and taken out of the play. If he did get a sack or some pressures he was simply chipped since we don't have another great pass rusher it is easy for other teams to do this.

Face it guys. Without another great edge rusher J Houston can be taken out of pass rushing situations easily by chipping him. Sending him into coverage isn't as big of a deal as people on here make it seem. I know in Madden always rushing J Houston is the smart thing to do but Sutton lives in the real world.

I think you're on to something here. I think this is a completely different defense with the threat of pressure coming opposite J.H. Different still with Eric Berry.... Without pressure, it's not as crazy as it appears to send J.H. out in coverage. Having said that, I still want Sutton gone. Time to see what a new DC can do.
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Raiderhater 06:44 PM 01-20-2018
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
I always laugh when idiots on here act like J Houston not rushing the passer and going into coverage is always some huge mistake. Personally I think his pass rushing skills have taken a huge nosedive since his 22-sack season. Why? Idk but he is not the same guy to me.

J Houston has not been a consistently great pass rusher since his 22-sack season. He shows flashes here and there but that is about it. He was frequently blocked one-on-one this season and taken out of the play. If he did get a sack or some pressures he was simply chipped since we don't have another great pass rusher it is easy for other teams to do this.

Face it guys. Without another great edge rusher J Houston can be taken out of pass rushing situations easily by chipping him. Sending him into coverage isn't as big of a deal as people on here make it seem. I know in Madden always rushing J Houston is the smart thing to do but Sutton lives in the real world.

How do you not realize that it is difficult to be a consistently good pass rusher when you aren't pass rushing because you are in pass coverage?
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RaidersOftheCellar 09:30 PM 01-19-2018
Right, geniuses...lets fire the coach who wins a bunch of games with a QB that everyone perceives as garbage + an O-line and D-line that get physically dominated by nearly every team they face.

Todd Haley or Herm would have won half as many games as Reid has with this group. Crenell a quarter. And guess what, odds are a lot greater that the replacement would be a lot closer to them than Bill Belichick.

Can't believe you fools want to show Reid the exit when he's about to install the best QB he's ever had. A guy who took less talent to several NFC championships and has posted a winning record in all but a couple seasons.

Or, I guess we could just make a knee-jerk reaction and fire his ass because a bunch of flukey shit happened vs the Colts and Titans.
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milkman 12:15 PM 01-20-2018
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Right, geniuses...lets fire the coach who wins a bunch of games with a QB that everyone perceives as garbage + an O-line and D-line that get physically dominated by nearly every team they face.

Todd Haley or Herm would have won half as many games as Reid has with this group. Crenell a quarter. And guess what, odds are a lot greater that the replacement would be a lot closer to them than Bill Belichick.

Can't believe you fools want to show Reid the exit when he's about to install the best QB he's ever had. A guy who took less talent to several NFC championships and has posted a winning record in all but a couple seasons.

Or, I guess we could just make a knee-jerk reaction and fire his ass because a bunch of flukey shit happened vs the Colts and Titans.

The Eagles did not have less talent than these Chiefs, dumbass.
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pugsnotdrugs19 07:02 PM 01-20-2018
Houston was actually more dominant on a down-to-down basis with his pass rush in 2015 pre-injury, he just wasn't racking up as many sacks... go back and watch that and tell me otherwise.

His injury probably set him back, and he is horribly misused. Would also greatly benefit to have help from the other side, as Zombo was the worst edge rusher in football.
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morphius 08:26 AM 01-31-2018
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Houston was actually more dominant on a down-to-down basis with his pass rush in 2015 pre-injury, he just wasn't racking up as many sacks... go back and watch that and tell me otherwise.

His injury probably set him back, and he is horribly misused. Would also greatly benefit to have help from the other side, as Zombo was the worst edge rusher in football.
It is hard to say he was misused by dropping him back in coverage when we couldn't even beat backup right tackles one on one.
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