Originally Posted by flock:
There is no statistical evidence to support this ridiculous statement.
It's not ridiculous if you aren't a Ravens fan.
Statistical evidence? Let's compare units:
"Front" players (not a 1x1 since we're comparing a 43 to a 34 base scheme)
Bosa, Ingram, Tillery, Joseph vs. Campbell, Wolfe, Judon, Williams
This is a nod to the Chargers at this point, and it really wasn't close. Joseph is still a run-plugging machine, and he and Williams are similar. Bosa is better than Campbell at this point in their careers, Judon and Ingram are equivalent, with perhaps a slight edge to Judon, and Tillery is better than Derek Wolfe is, was, or ever will be.
LB
Again, we're comparing different fronts, but let's use this grouping:
Murray, Perryman, Kyzir White vs. Queen, McPhee, Fort
I give Murray the edge here over Queen (bigger, drafted higher), and rest are equivalent... good scheme fits who execute well.
Secondary
Peters and Humphrey are an outstanding CB duo and better than the Chargers' best 2 CB (Chris Harris and Heyward), but the Chargers have major advantages beyond their top two corners. Their 3rd CB is much better than the Ravens' current options, and they're stronger at safety with Adderly and/or Desmond King back there. [Reply]
And to build onto your point Duncan, while I think Peters and Humphrey are a better duo too, they are not as reliable when it comes to staying assignment sound as LA’s corners. In that stagnant scheme where preventing big plays is the #1 goal, you can count on Harris and Hayward more to do that IMO.
If we’re assuming the Ravens try to replicate a zone heavy game plan. [Reply]
The Ravens really just don’t match up well with the Chiefs. Watching them and I don’t see any difference from last year on both sides of the ball. If the Chiefs don’t make stupid mistakes they’ll win. The Chargers match up better with us than the Ravens. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I find it hard to believe the Ravens are going to drastically change what they do.
I’m not really sure what they’ve been doing so far TBH. We’ve never played them since acquiring Peters, it would make sense if his addition resulted in more zone coverages. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I actually think Fenton has been okay out there so far. Yeah he technically gave up that TD but Sorenson left his man and totally fucked him there.
I like him against possession type receivers. Great value for a late round pick
I especially like him as our 4th best corner. We’ve had PLENTY of teams in the past where he would’ve been our best. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I actually think Fenton has been okay out there so far. Yeah he technically gave up that TD but Sorenson left his man and totally fucked him there.
I like him against possession type receivers. Great value for a late round pick
Fenton did his job there. That’s also a ridiculous throw that I’m sure Fenton just didn’t expect Herbert to attempt. [Reply]
Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire:
Fenton did his job there. That’s also a ridiculous throw that I’m sure Fenton just didn’t expect Herbert to attempt.
No, sorry. Fenton's job was to maintain the deep 3rd zone. He screwed up by vacating the zone and biting on the up man. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Also, you continue to throw Wolfe’s name around like he’s not an old brokedick. They lost Wormley, who’s a better player than Wolfe at this point.