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Direckshun 12:34 AM 12-03-2018
The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season.

They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown.

Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style.

But that might change. He may see the field.

Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim.

We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does.

The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past.

As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game.

The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT.

But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative.

As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks.

#1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game).
#1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game).

I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here.

The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount.

Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well.

The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage.

In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD.

They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games.

Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons
Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers

That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point.

How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do.

What is going on?
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Best22 12:36 AM 12-03-2018
31-23 Chiefs
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TribalElder 12:36 AM 12-03-2018
Their defense can be raw

T sizzle

Hope we beat them handily with no personnel losses because short week chargers
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suzzer99 12:40 AM 12-03-2018
I think we win behind the home crowd pumping up our defense to not totally suck.
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Basileus777 12:40 AM 12-03-2018
If Watkins plays we put up 30+ on that D. They are ranked 5th in defensive DVOA, so they are good. But Denver is ranked higher and they know us better, and we still beat that ass.
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Direckshun 12:43 AM 12-03-2018
Watkins isn't even practicing. I'm starting to worry a bit on the Sammy front.

I know he'll be back for the playoffs but we're doing to need him at home against the Chargers and against the Seahawks.
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mr. tegu 12:47 AM 12-03-2018
They’re fine but they are just an average team that beats other average or below average teams. Nothing to worry about. We beat them by 10+ points and clinch the division the following week.
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Bump 01:14 AM 12-03-2018
really good defense and Lamar Jackson seems to be making plays.

Who was really the first team to figure out Michael Vick and shut him down completely? It was Andy Reid's Eagles in the championship game after the Falcons beat the Packers and that was a huge upset. Hopefully we can do the same here.
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Titty Meat 01:28 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
Watkins isn't even practicing. I'm starting to worry a bit on the Sammy front.

I know he'll be back for the playoffs but we're doing to need him at home against the Chargers and against the Seahawks.
Why would you worry? Hes had foot problems since his sophomore year @ Clemson. Next year he will male 19 mil. If Dorsey was crucified for big contracts to injured players Veach should be as well. Atleast those injured guys were our own.

As for the Ravens the game plan should be to stack the box to take away the run and keep Jackson in the pocket to make him beat us with the pass.
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TinyEvel 01:33 AM 12-03-2018
A team that scores 25 points a game with decent receivers will score about 38 against our D.

I know Ravens have been all over the place. If this was on the road I would say odds are we lose. After watching the lame Raiders score 33 on us while turning the ball over three times, it's hard to be super confident about this game.

I am so down on this Chiefs secondary and the linebackers... Our Offense will have to score 40+ each game through the rest of the season (and more than that during the playoffs) if we are going too get to the big game.
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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02:28 AM 12-03-2018
Alex Collins is on IR I believe
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suzzer99 02:36 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
Watkins isn't even practicing. I'm starting to worry a bit on the Sammy front.

I know he'll be back for the playoffs but we're doing to need him at home against the Chargers and against the Seahawks.
I think they're trying to make sure he's ready for the playoffs. They didn't think they'd need him for the Raiders, and even w/o the surprise loss of Hunt they were right.

I'd guess Watkins and Berry make an appearance next week.
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Hammock Parties 06:09 AM 12-03-2018
Sutton is good against inexperienced QBs.

This won't be a problem. Chiefs by 2 TDs.
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Deberg_1990 06:42 AM 12-03-2018
Ravens D and ball control keep them
In the game.

Ravens 30
Chiefs 33
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St. Patty's Fire 06:44 AM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by TinyEvel:
A team that scores 25 points a game with decent receivers will score about 38 against our D.

I know Ravens have been all over the place. If this was on the road I would say odds are we lose. After watching the lame Raiders score 33 on us while turning the ball over three times, it's hard to be super confident about this game.

I am so down on this Chiefs secondary and the linebackers... Our Offense will have to score 40+ each game through the rest of the season (and more than that during the playoffs) if we are going too get to the big game.
If this was a road game, I’d agree, but we’ve managed to do well defensively on home field. Jackson has added a cool new wrinkle to Baltimore’s offense but the dude is more a runner than a passer. There will be opportunities for picks. And if the Ravens turn the ball over in this game, they’ll have zero - ZERO - chance.
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