Man, the more I look at the cap numbers and our cache of picks as well as the areas in which we need to improve our talent level...the more I just think we kind of HAVE to tag and trade Jones and let Watkins go as well.
I don't think we get a Khalil Mack haul, but I've seen a mid #2 floated as well. I think that's horseshit.
What do you think we get in a tag-and-trade scenario for Jones?
What (if any) compensation do you think we'd receive for Watkins? [Reply]
And you're right, you add Jones to that defense and its a top 15 unit. And their entire roster isn't that bad really. If NE tanks they could be a playoff team with a legit QB. [Reply]
Originally Posted by wachashi:
For Watkins, I just don't see a team giving up draft capital for the right to overpay Sammy for one year. The team trading for him will absorb a $14 million cap hit, which is expensive, but not insane. The question for a Sammy trade is whether or not there's a team out there that would prefer to get him on an expensive one-year deal VS getting him on a cheaper long-term deal. He's an elite WR2 with an injury history that is getting cut unless rescued by a trade. That's going to push his value down.
We're not getting anything substantial in a Sammy Watkins trade.
I don't agree. Watkins contact lends itself to a long term extension with conversion of the 14 million to signing bonus and therefore prorated over the contract. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Nightfyre:
I don't agree. Watkins contact lends itself to a long term extension with conversion of the 14 million to signing bonus and therefore prorated over the contract.
While I tend to agree, I don't think its out of the realm of possibility. Sammy is 26, still in his prime, and you have to realize that AJ Green is going to be asking for 15M a season. I think a WR team like the Packers. They could rent him for a year or get him in and extend him to make the contract more friendly. He's exactly what Rogers needs. but probably a pipe dream. [Reply]
I don’t think we are trading him with the new CBA. Instead of $10 million average, you can count on a $15-17 million increase with more overall games, gambling and more international games.
Sign him now. Have 2020 be his first year low cap hit and have 1 season (2021) be with a moderately high cap hit.
That extra $5-7 million increase starting in Spring 2022 will help us big time. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I don’t think we are trading him with the new CBA. Instead of $10 million average, you can count on a $15-17 million increase with more overall games, gambling and more international games.
Sign him now. Have 2020 be his first year low cap hit and have 1 season (2021) be with a moderately high cap hit.
That extra $5-7 million increase starting in Spring 2022 will help us big time.
Or, will he want $25m per because of the new CBA? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chargem:
Tag cost will be big, and you can't work any of that cap magic by using signing bonuses etc, can't see him just playing a year on the tag, that would suck for the Chiefs.
We can afford the tag cost next year after we cut Sammy, which we will. $16.8M. However, I don't see Jones playing on a 1 year contract because it's too risky. If he gets hurt, it will jeopardize his chances at a 5 year deal.