Originally Posted by RunKC:
Uh we traded multiple high picks for a QB.
Tired of the debate? Stop contributing to it. You've said your piece. Everyone now knows exactly how you feel. So you are now able to not talk about it again, same for the nuthuggers,BTW [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie:
All I know is this; Andy got what he wanted before the draft. Welp, guess who's turn it is on draft day to get what HE wants, mother****ers? And I guran****ingtee you that the man who places a premium on stacking the deck at the QB position, the man who had a hand in the taking and development of A~Rodg(like that shit, bitches?), will NOT have his sights set on a non-generational sack of mule dung like Luke "Sta-Puff" Jokel. Deal with it. Posted via Mobile Device
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I'm tired of this Geno shit ruining every thread.
This has been going on since September. It's like a guy getting broken up with by his gf and he won't shut up and move on from it after 8 months and they talk to you about it every single day.
And the dumbest part of this is that people are going to bitch about us not drafting Geno for months after we don't pick him.
Yeah they derail some threads. Use the ignore function or just overlook it. Your incessant bitching is getting to be just as bad as their incessant bullshit [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I did. Geno is not a franchise QB like you are claiming. Hell he's not that great of a QB prospect at that.
If we take a QB, I want a guy who we believe can be a franchise QB one day. It's obvious that we aren't the only one's who believe Geno isn't that guy.
The LT's are the best prospects in this draft and that's our plan.
How was that even CLOSE to what I was fucking asking? :-)
You claim Joeckel/Fisher are the best players in this draft, presumedly taking into account positional value and all that other good stuff. On the topic of positional value, I asked, "As Geno relates to the top prospects as a QB, at what position would athletes with the ranking of Joeckel/Fisher have to play for Geno to receive a better ranking than them on your big board?"
I'll explain again. Geno as a QB has his ranking on your big board. Fisher/Joeckel have theirs as OTs. Now, compared to other OTs in other draft classes, and comparing those players to THEIR draft classes, if players at the rankings of Joeckel/Fisher played say... WR... would they still be ranked ahead of Geno?
I ask, because surely you wouldn't come across the Luke Joeckel of OGs and say we should take him before Geno, right? So when do you stop with this nonsense? Geno, by the nature of being the top QB in a draft class, is worth WAY MORE than a Geno Smith who plays OT.
So... (I can't believe I'm doing this for you) if you answer my question, your response will take the form of a POSITION.
What would Joeckel have to play to be outranked by Geno? [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
Yeah they derail some threads. Use the ignore function or just overlook it. Your incessant bitching is getting to be just as bad as their incessant bullshit
Fair enough.
I'm probably not going to post in the draft day thread because it's going to be a bitchfest because we don't take Geno. [Reply]
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
No, you're not answering his question.
His question is at what point does positional value overtake individual player value.
I hesitate to paraphrase, but his thinking is that no LT will ever have 1:1 value. So he will always choose a "lesser" player at another position over the top LT.
Meaning to him, if he agrees for the sake of argument that Geno is not a franchise QB, he would still take him over any of the tackle prospects, despite their (again, theoretical for the sake of argument) higher grades.
So basically a QB with a 91 rating is more valuable than a LT with a 98.
(This happens to be my thinking as well)
His point was at what point to you agree with that, if ever? And then further, with which positions would that be true?
Is that a fair characterization SNR?
Yes. That's exactly it. You explained it better and more clearly, too. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
And just to increase flaming, I'm actually jumping on the star bandwagon. Star, Poe, and devito with Houston Hali and DJ would be interesting.
I'm probably not going to post in the draft day thread because it's going to be a bitchfest because we don't take Geno.
Did you participate in SOC? Just curious.
Because we went a LONG ways and did a TON of work to cleanse this team of bullshit, and people are pretty fucking livid that we exchanged Pioli's bullshit for Reid's bullshit. They have every right to bitch and derail threads and tell people to get AIDS and all that jazz.
Sorry. Go visit one of the dumbfuck Chiefs boards where they like Luke Joeckel if it bugs you.
This shit isn't going away. We STILL have arguments about Mark Sanchez on this board to this day. If you're pissed about it now, I can't say Chiefs Planet is going to be the right forum for you. [Reply]
