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JD10367 12:04 PM 05-01-2019
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
The Russos strongly hinted that if Chris Evans ever wants to return, there may be some alt-timeline Cap stories to tell.
Going by how Endgame portrays time travel, going to the past in your reality doesn't alter your reality but instead sends the reality you went to on a different timeline. So, for example, if you went back and killed Hitler, you would create an alternate Hitler-free reality but returning to your time you'd still find Hitler in the history books.

Now, Cap going back to the 40s/50s (judging by the car in the last scene) creates an interesting alternate reality because a) that act creates a different reality for that version of Earth and b) it doesn't even disturb the Cap from that reality because he's still in the ice. (Although he'll be pissed to wake up and find out he's been frozen for most of a century and an alt-Cap came back and spent 50 years fucking his sweetheart.) So that Cap could feel free to fuck with that reality's Hydra as much or as little as he pleased, because it only changes that reality and not his. I doubt Cap could stand by and not mess with Hydra but, judging by his ability to return to his reality as an old man, apparently he made it through safe and sound.
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O.city 12:22 PM 05-01-2019
Originally Posted by JD10367:
Going by how Endgame portrays time travel, going to the past in your reality doesn't alter your reality but instead sends the reality you went to on a different timeline. So, for example, if you went back and killed Hitler, you would create an alternate Hitler-free reality but returning to your time you'd still find Hitler in the history books.

Now, Cap going back to the 40s/50s (judging by the car in the last scene) creates an interesting alternate reality because a) that act creates a different reality for that version of Earth and b) it doesn't even disturb the Cap from that reality because he's still in the ice. (Although he'll be pissed to wake up and find out he's been frozen for most of a century and an alt-Cap came back and spent 50 years ****ing his sweetheart.) So that Cap could feel free to **** with that reality's Hydra as much or as little as he pleased, because it only changes that reality and not his. I doubt Cap could stand by and not mess with Hydra but, judging by his ability to return to his reality as an old man, apparently he made it through safe and sound.
But you're going back to your own reality just at a different time.
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Chiefspants 10:54 PM 05-01-2019
Originally Posted by JD10367:
Going by how Endgame portrays time travel, going to the past in your reality doesn't alter your reality but instead sends the reality you went to on a different timeline. So, for example, if you went back and killed Hitler, you would create an alternate Hitler-free reality but returning to your time you'd still find Hitler in the history books.

Now, Cap going back to the 40s/50s (judging by the car in the last scene) creates an interesting alternate reality because a) that act creates a different reality for that version of Earth and b) it doesn't even disturb the Cap from that reality because he's still in the ice. (Although he'll be pissed to wake up and find out he's been frozen for most of a century and an alt-Cap came back and spent 50 years ****ing his sweetheart.) So that Cap could feel free to **** with that reality's Hydra as much or as little as he pleased, because it only changes that reality and not his. I doubt Cap could stand by and not mess with Hydra but, judging by his ability to return to his reality as an old man, apparently he made it through safe and sound.
This is exactly what the Russo’s implied. That he stayed in that reality and it was a new one from the universe we’ve seen. Also implied that it could be “revisited”.

Makes me think Evans might have indicated he’d be “open” to returning after a certain amount of time. This ending gives Marvel the flexibility to say goodbye to his character or return to it since he’d be in a different universe.

A noir Cap or a 1970’s espionage movie vs Hydra with Peggy and Howard does sound wonderful.
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BigRedChief 07:04 PM 05-03-2019
Originally Posted by JD10367:
Going by how Endgame portrays time travel, going to the past in your reality doesn't alter your reality but instead sends the reality you went to on a different timeline. So, for example, if you went back and killed Hitler, you would create an alternate Hitler-free reality but returning to your time you'd still find Hitler in the history books.
thats the only way time travel is possible as we currently understand according to Einstein’s theory. But, that speed faster than light is not possible either. So who knows?
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O.city 12:21 PM 05-01-2019
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
The Russos strongly hinted that if Chris Evans ever wants to return, there may be some alt-timeline Cap stories to tell.
But what timeline would that be?

Would it be the one they defeated Thanos in, or the one he went and stayed in? Although I guess technically they would be the same?

Fuck i'm dumb.
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WhawhaWhat 01:20 PM 05-01-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
But what timeline would that be?

Would it be the one they defeated Thanos in, or the one he went and stayed in? Although I guess technically they would be the same?

**** i'm dumb.
Falcon goes back in time to get the Captain America that never came back and then they jump to the present. Fighting commences. Captain America goes back in time to where they pulled him from and Peggy Carter never notices he's gone.
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Hammock Parties 06:51 AM 05-01-2019

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Gravedigger 08:10 AM 05-01-2019
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
If the lightsaber stays at the same home, did it really ever get passed on?
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sully1983 08:29 AM 05-01-2019
Originally Posted by Gravedigger:
If the lightsaber stays at the same home, did it really ever get passed on?
Ha good point. Also, Disney owns the Avatar franchise as well . JFC they are too powerful . :-)
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JD10367 12:09 PM 05-01-2019
Originally Posted by sully1983:
Ha good point. Also, Disney owns the Avatar franchise as well . JFC they are too powerful . :-)
In August of 2009 they bought Marvel for $4B... and some people wondered if that was too much.

Just the 22 main MCU films have grossed $20B worldwide.

If I had some Pym particles, I'd go back to the 80s and buy as much Disney stock as I could afford.
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MarkDavis'Haircut 12:18 PM 05-01-2019
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
I hope Kennedy took notes on how to run a successful franchise.
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-King- 05:02 PM 05-01-2019
Watched it yesterday. Not a bad movie but I had a headache trying to keep myself awake. Too long and boring.
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Kman34 05:31 PM 05-01-2019
Originally Posted by -King-:
Watched it yesterday. Not a bad movie but I had a headache trying to keep myself awake. Too long and boring.
Maybe movie theaters aren’t for you...
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Sassy Squatch 05:34 PM 05-01-2019
Originally Posted by Kman34:
Maybe movie theaters aren’t for you...
Nah, I kind of get where he's coming from. Avengers being depressed and the Quantom Realm itself both got rather tedious. The payoff more than made up for it, though.
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-King- 12:21 AM 05-03-2019
Originally Posted by Kman34:
Maybe movie theaters aren’t for you...
Meh it was 2 hrs of uneventful shit and an hr of exciting shit that we've seen before (avengers fighting a large generic army).
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