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Direckshun 12:44 PM 01-25-2021
My armchair assessment.

1. OT

On roster: Lucas Niang, Martinas Rankin, Eric Fisher (injured), Mitchell Schwartz (retiring?)
RFA:
UFA: Mike Remmers
? Prince Tega Wanogho (can't figure out if he's under contract for 2021)

2. DE

On roster: Frank Clark, Mike Danna, Tim Ward
RFA:
UFA: Tanoh Kpassagnon, Alex Okafor, Taco Charlton, Demone Harris
? Austin Edwards

3. WR

On roster: Tyreek Hill, Mecole Hardman
RFA: Byron Pringle
UFA: Sammy Watkins, Demarcus Robinson, Marcus Kemp, Gehrig Dieter
? Maurice Ffrench, Jody Fortson, Tajae Sharpe

4. LB

On roster: Anthony Hitchens, Willie Gay Jr., Emmanuel Smith, Dorian O'Daniel
RFA: Ben Niemann, Darius Harris
UFA: Damien Wilson
? Omari Cobb

5. IOL

On roster: Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Nick Allegretti, Yasir Durant
RFA: Andrew Wylie
UFA: Austin Reiter, Kelechi Osemele, Stefen Wisniewski, Daniel Kilgore, Bryan Witzmann
? Patrick Omameh

6. CB

On roster: L'Jarius Sneed, Rashad Fenton, Bopete Keyes
RFA: Charvarius Ward, Alex Brown
UFA: Bashaud Breeland, Antonio Hamilton, Deandre Baker
?

7. S

On roster: Tyrann Mathieu, Juan Thornhill, Armani Watts
RFA:
UFA: Daniel Sorensen
? Chris Lammons

8. TE

On roster: Travis Kelce
RFA: Nick Keizer, Deon Yelder
UFA: Ricky Seals-Jones
? Evan Baylis

9. DT

On roster: Chris Jones, Tershawn Wharton, Derrick Nnadi, Khalen Saunders
RFA:
UFA: Mike Pennel
?

10. RB

On roster: Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Damien Williams, Darwin Thompson
RFA: Darrel Williams
UFA: Le'Veon Bell
? Elijah McGuire

11. QB

On roster: Patrick Mahomes, Chad Henne
RFA:
UFA: Matt Moore
?
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htismaqe 11:07 PM 01-26-2021
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Why would KC draft another RB? We have CEH, who's going to be our RB1 next season, period. Then we have Damien coming back next season, unless he decides he wants to go elsewhere. And we have Darrel and Darwin. Adding yet another RB to the stable seems completely unnecessary? We're not even a running team . . .
Read what I wrote. :-)

We have Damien Williams back and Darrell is a RFA. We don't need a RB this year.

However, next year we may need one with Damien's contract being up and Thompson being a waste of a roster spot. Doesn't mean we have to draft one, it could always be a UDFA or FA.
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Megatron96 11:15 PM 01-26-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Read what I wrote. :-)

We have Damien Williams back and Darrell is a RFA. We don't need a RB this year.

However, next year we may need one with Damien's contract being up and Thompson being a waste of a roster spot. Doesn't mean we have to draft one, it could always be a UDFA or FA.
Just a gut feeling, but I don't think Damien is going anywhere. At least for a while.
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htismaqe 11:15 PM 01-26-2021
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Just a gut feeling, but I don't think Damien is going anywhere. At least for a while.
His contract is up after 2021. He could probably get a better job somewhere else. He basically got replaced.
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Megatron96 11:20 PM 01-26-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
His contract is up after 2021. He could probably get a better job somewhere else. He basically got replaced.
Like I said, just a gut feeling. No evidence to support it. Betting money would have him going elsewhere for a payday. And he could probably get it too, after almost winning the SB LIV MVP according to some talking heads, and having a season of rest, a la Marcus Allen.

But some part of me is whispering "he'll be back in Chiefs Red and Gold in 2022, you just watch and see."

And my gut is weirdly right a lot.
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CatfishBob2 11:59 PM 01-26-2021
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Why would KC draft another RB? We have CEH, who's going to be our RB1 next season, period. Then we have Damien coming back next season, unless he decides he wants to go elsewhere. And we have Darrel and Darwin. Adding yet another RB to the stable seems completely unnecessary? We're not even a running team . . .
I'm not counting on any of the guys who sat out this year, next year, including LDT. If DW26 is on the team next year.... great, wipe RB off my draft board for a year, but DW31 and DT with CEH does not constitute a RB stable lol....I think this upcoming draft should be aiming for roster flexibility because outside of OL and DE this team doesnt have any glaring needs IMO
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GingaChief 08:15 AM 01-27-2021
Here is mine for the time being. All can change as time gets closer once we release/re-sign certain players. Most likely going to be a quiet off-season in terms of FA signings. Some may seem like a reach but i've watched a lot of CFB this year & a lot of film on these picks I make.

1. DE - Carlos Basham/Dayo Odeyingbo.

Would like someone stronger on the other side to partner Clark. Basham will be a steal if he managed to drop to us.

2. OG/C - Creed Humphrey/Trey Hill/Wyatt Davis/Jackson Carman.

This is an interesting one due to the amount of talent on the O-line this year. IF Mitch doesn't comes back this pick will change for me. Allegreti, Wylie & Reiter have solid but I feel an upgrade is needed if we are to run the ball better. LDT coming back is huge & having a better LG will compliment the O-line.

3. WR - Tamorrion Terry/Nico Collins/Warren Jackson.

If we keep Watkins then this pick will drop to 4th round but still think a potential #2 WR is in this draft for us. All these guys have height & speed(Jackson is the slowest of the 3 but tallest).

4. TE - Jake Ferguson/Matt Bushman.

All season we've struggled with a #2 TE. RSJ hardly given a chance & Keizer hasn't been impressive at all. Could develop into a replacement for Kelce given a few years behind him. Would take either guy but Bushman would be my choice if no one reaches for him. Could take him in the 3rd round if Watkins stays.

5. LB - Jabril Cox/Amen Ogbongbemiga.

Gay, Hitchens & Wilson is solid but we need better back up. Niemann & O'Daniel not good enough for me.

Other positions to look at;

CB - Assuming we release Ward & Hamilton while extending Breeland on a better deal we'll have 5 CB's including Baker. Not a big need but something we could do if the right guys available 5-7th round.

LT - If Mitch retires which is possible & Fisher(who will have to restructure his contract) going to take a while to return we need depth on tackle. Remmers & Niang(looking forward to see play)for RT is good enough for me. So drafting a LT is a possibility
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Chris Meck 04:59 PM 01-27-2021
I feel a little better about Reid and Heck's ability to make chicken salad out of late picks and UDFA's when it comes to interior linemen. It's a less rare skill-set than being an OT in the NFL.

There's also Justin Britt, who is returning from an ACL (I think) and missed this season but is still 29 and has played center at a high level. So, you know, that's a nice cheap veteran option there, although we still need to be grooming a center.

I think Alegretti's earned his spot moving forward. So I think we need an IOL or two still, but really probably only ONE that needs to be an immediate starter.

You're going to have to bring back Remmers I think, and still draft an OT with actual NFL level OT ability, and typically that's high. Yeah, I know we just took Niang, but we literally haven't seen him at all, and I don't like just handing jobs to guys, especially at OT. We need to take one, and take one early.

OT
DE
WR
IOL
CB

would be my order of need.
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mkp785 05:19 PM 01-27-2021
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Like I said, just a gut feeling. No evidence to support it. Betting money would have him going elsewhere for a payday. And he could probably get it too, after almost winning the SB LIV MVP according to some talking heads, and having a season of rest, a la Marcus Allen.

But some part of me is whispering "he'll be back in Chiefs Red and Gold in 2022, you just watch and see."

And my gut is weirdly right a lot.
He 100% deserved to get superbowl MVP. 100%. I love Mahomes as much as the next guy but D. Williams was massive for us in that game. All game. Mahomes came on in the 4th and won it for us but Damien was a rock.
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kccrow 07:32 PM 01-27-2021
1. OT
2. OC
3. DE
4. WR
5. S


The rest will get patched in but those are the big ones to me.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 07:58 PM 01-27-2021
Surely Veach can lure a quality FA tackle for a decent price. Hell, Osemele was a great pick up.
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Chris Meck 09:27 AM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
Surely Veach can lure a quality FA tackle for a decent price. Hell, Osemele was a great pick up.
a Tackle ain't a Guard. Just sayin'.
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htismaqe 12:18 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
a Tackle ain't a Guard. Just sayin'.
Osemele was a tackle. He's just a guard now. :-)
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Chris Meck 12:52 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Osemele was a tackle. He's just a guard now. :-)
well he's nothing at the moment unless he can come back on completely reconstructed knees.

But what I mean is that it's a very different skillset, and a harder one to find that can handle the outside OT role. The huge, massive mauler guys usually don't work out all that well at Left Tackle; sometimes that can work at RT. But in a Reid system, it seems he likes to have mobile centers and guards too. At least ONE guard who can move.
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htismaqe 01:05 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
well he's nothing at the moment unless he can come back on completely reconstructed knees.

But what I mean is that it's a very different skillset, and a harder one to find that can handle the outside OT role. The huge, massive mauler guys usually don't work out all that well at Left Tackle; sometimes that can work at RT. But in a Reid system, it seems he likes to have mobile centers and guards too. At least ONE guard who can move.
I was just being an ass. :-)

I don't think Kelechi has really played tackle since college and that was a decade ago.
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Chris Meck 01:32 PM 01-28-2021
Here's the thing-
We don't know what we have in Niang. I do know that he's first round caliber talent that fell to the 3rd because of a hip injury. I also know it's probably not likely he would've been able to contribute much this season.

I SUSPECT that his opting out was discussed and approved as a roster move with Veach and the front office. Like as a medical redshirt year. I have no proof of that, it's just a suspicion. Consider it my 'Veach-anon' conspiracy.

and I can't help but think when I watch his tape-Damn he looks just like Willie Roaf. Which is a ridiculous comparison and totally unfair to the kid, as Roaf was the best offensive tackle I ever saw in my life.

And yet, for all of this, I don't want to just hand him a starting spot. And I STILL want to take a legit (i.e. early) offensive tackle in this draft. Maybe a Mayfield, or an Eichenberg, but no later than the 2nd round. And I want to bring Remmers back.

That's all. Just my thoughts.
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