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JakeF 01:18 PM 10-21-2020
FYI: Roster Move: #Eagles have released G Jamon Brown


10 NFL Players Who Could Get Traded Before the Deadline
BYDANNY CUNNINGHAM
https://www.complex.com/sports/2020/...aded/zach-ertz

The NFL continues to roll along, pandemic and all, and as the good teams are starting to separate themselves from the bad, GMs are more than likely looking at ways they can improve their rosters for the rest of the season. It’s still super early in the season, but it’s becoming clear which teams have no chance at playing in the postseason, which ones should clear their January calendars, and who has more work to do. There aren't usually many trades in the NFL at the deadline, so none of these are likely per se, but as we explain for each, there are reasons as to why they could potentially be dealt.

This means that there are upgrades to be made for potential playoff team. One big upgrade out there could be Le’Veon Bell, who was set to headline this list prior to the New York Jets releasing him on Tuesday night. Whoever signs him is sure to get better, but so will any teams that trade for these players that should be made available to be acquired before the trade deadline comes in a little less than three weeks. Here are 10 players who could get dealt before the Nov. 3 NFL trade deadline.


AJ Green

This one is a bit complicated. AJ Green is almost always hurt lately, and the Bengals finally have a fun, young quarterback for him to play with. At the same time, this is a team that’s at least two years away from being a real contender in an absolutely loaded division. Joe Burrow looks like he might be the real deal, but Green looks absolutely checked out in Cincy. Maybe it’s best for all parties to move on from what’s been a long, successful partnership.

Potential Destinations: Green Bay, New England

Green would be a great fit in both places and kick the offense into a different gear. We also know that both the Packers and Patriots are usually very aggressive when it comes to going after talented players.

Julio Jones

The Falcons really never recovered from blowing a 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl, and now it’s probably time to actually blow things up. The franchise just dismissed head coach Dan Quinn and general manager Thomas Dimitroff after an 0-5 start and it’s hard to see things getting any better anytime soon. Matt Ryan looks like his days as an elite quarterback are in the rearview mirror, and the franchise is looking at a full-on rebuild. The biggest asset Atlanta currently has is Julio Jones, and he could be worth a lot if he’s healthy.

Potential Destinations: Green Bay, New England

How fun would it be to see Jones with Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay? So much has been made about how Rodgers has only thrown two touchdown passes in his career to first-round draft picks and Jones would not only change that quickly, but might form the best 1-2 receiving tandem in the league with Davante Adams, too. As for New England, the Patriots might not be the same machine that they have been forever, but the thing that certainly hasn’t changed is that they’re underwhelming at the receiver position. Giving Cam Newton a legit weapon on the outside could make the Patriots a legitimate threat to win the AFC East, even after Tom Brady bolted for Tampa Bay.

Sam Darnold

The Jets are so much of a dumpster fire that they decided just to cut Le’Veon Bell on Tuesday night as we already mentioned, but they’re also so much of a mess that Adam Schefter is already reporting about teams calling the Jets about a Sam Darnold trade. Sam Darnold was supposed to be the guy to take the Jets back to the promised land, but instead, Adam Gase – who surely has to be on his way out as head coach – destroyed any chance of that happening. The Jets are going to be bad enough to draft the quarterback of their choosing next spring, meaning that the door could be all but closed on Darnold. He may not have as many people salivating over his talent as he did when coming out of USC, but he’s still worth a shot.

Potential Destinations: Washington, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Chicago, San Francisco

This list could have even been longer than it is, and it’s the longest list of anyone we’re mentioning as a trade candidate. The one thing with Darnold here, is that it’s a play for the future and not this season. It’s difficult for anyone to plug right in and play in the NFL after being traded, but it’s nearly impossible at this position. Washington just benched Dwayne Haskins (more on him soon) but might not be bad enough to win the Trevor Lawrence Sweepstakes. Pittsburgh and Indianapolis both have older quarterbacks and will need to move on from them eventually. Maybe Darnold isn’t even ready to replace Ben Roethlisberger or Philip Rivers next year, but down the road he could be the face of the franchise. The Bears are in a similar situation as Washington, having realized that Mitch Trubisky isn’t the guy moving forward, and it’s really hard to think right now that the 49ers didn’t make a mistake on Jimmy Garoppolo, too.


Dwayne Haskins

Washington isn’t nearly the dumpster fire that the Jets are, but they’ve seen enough from Dwayne Haskins already to know that he’s not going to be the guy for them moving forward. With a new regime taking over in Washington, it felt like this was almost inevitable for Haskins, but few expected the decision to be made this quickly. We’re only a couple of years removed from Haskins being a top-20 pick in the draft. There’s still reason for hope for Haskins. If Washington doesn’t think that he’s a franchise quarterback, some other franchise might.

Potential Destinations: Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, San Francisco
This list is pretty similar to that of Darnold, and with good reason. All it takes is one team to believe in Haskins and pull the trigger on him. If he had the proper situation to grow and learn, his chance of success is only going to increase. Of the spots that we’ve picked out for him, Pittsburgh might be the one that makes the most sense.

Jabrill Peppers

We’ve already touched upon how bad the other New York team is a couple of times, but the Giants are almost just as bad. They won’t go winless this year, but it’s clear that they’re not going to win very many games, and there are legitimate concerns that Daniel Jones may not belong in the NFL. It’s time for the Giants to move on from guys that could net them assets for the future, because it’s hard to see them being anything resembling good for the rest of this year or even next season.

Potential Destinations: Cleveland, Dallas, New Orleans

Jabrill Peppers has been pretty solid overall for the Giants since he was traded there from Cleveland in the Odell Beckham Jr. trade. While the Browns obviously got the better player, Peppers has been a plus for the New York defense. He only has one year left on his contract currently, and while he won’t be able to attract a first-round pick, he could net a lesser draft pick in return. Cleveland, Dallas, and New Orleans all either have massive holes in the secondary, or are just plain bad in the back four. A reunion with the Browns certainly would be fun now that they’re good.

Anthony Harris

The Vikings have tried really hard to be good this season. Their 1-4 record may not tell the story to the true talent of the team, but the old adage says that you are what your record is, and that says the Vikings aren’t good. They’re much closer to rebuilding than they would like to be, but it looks like that’s what’s in the cards. They’re not bad enough to tank for Trevor Lawrence, but they’re not a playoff team, either. Being in the middle is the worst place to be, but even then the Vikings are closer to bad than good now.

Potential Destinations: Cleveland, Dallas, New Orleans
The three teams listed for Peppers also apply for Harris, but Harris would be the better, more expensive fit for each of them. He is a free agent after this year after being franchised by Minnesota last offseason. Harris is better against the pass than Peppers is, and had six interceptions last season to tie for the NFL lead. The price on Harris could be pretty high, but there’s no doubt he would come in and be the best safety in Cleveland and Dallas, and could be a great sidekick to Malcolm Jenkins in New Orleans if that move were made.

Ryan Kerrigan

The Football Team has a pretty strong defensive line with rookie Chase Young and second-year defensive end Montez Sweat taking center stage. In fact, it’s probably the most talented position group in Washington and certainly one to be excited about for the future. Ryan Kerrigan has been part of the Washington defense since he was drafted in 2011, but it might be time for the four-time Pro Bowl selection to contribute elsewhere. Kerrigan’s contract expires after this season, and it’s hard to imagine Washington opting to re-sign him.

Potential Destinations: New Orleans, Arizona, Buffalo, Las Vegas, San Francisco

Kerrigan’s production this season hasn’t been great, outside of the Week 1 win over Philadelphia. He did have a pair of sacks in that game and a fumble recovery. Putting him in a new situation certainly could mean that his production sparks back up. The Saints have a mess of a defense that can’t stop the pass, partly because they don’t get to the quarterback nearly enough. Arizona actually is seventh in the NFL in sacks, but is 26th in pressure rate on quarterbacks. Buffalo has an awesome defense for the most part, but it does feel like they’re missing a rusher off the edge, hurrying less than 5% off opponents throws (entering Tuesday night when they were decimated by the Titans). The Raiders are even worse than the Cardinals in pressure rate and only have seven total sacks on the season. San Francisco has actually been near the top of the league in pressuring opposing quarterbacks, but with Nick Bosa and Solomon Thomas done for the year, it’s fair to question just how sustainable that is.

David Njoku

A somewhat forgotten storyline from this offseason was when David Njoku requested a trade away from the Cleveland Browns. After the Browns signed Austin Hooper during free agency and drafted Harrison Bryant, there suddenly was a surplus at that spot. While Njoku has produced during his limited time on the field this season, it’s fair to wonder whether or not the Browns should still think about moving on from him, especially considering they have already exercised his 2021 option for $6 million, which is a lot to pay a guy that could be the team’s third tight end.

Potential Destinations: Green Bay, Arizona, Tampa Bay

The versatility of Njoku as a receiver as well as a tight end boosts his value a bit here. We’ve already mentioned the Packers as needing more weapons for Aaron Rodgers on the outside, and while Njoku isn’t Julio Jones, he’s a viable threat in the intermediate passing game as well as the red zone. The Cardinals run a pretty wide-open offense that would be a great fit for a tight end with Njoku’s skill set, and they get very limited production from their tight ends now. In Tampa Bay, OJ Howard is done for the year with an Achilles injury, and Rob Gronkowski looks more like a random big guy wearing No. 87 than he does Rob Gronkowski.

Allen Robinson

It’s not that the Bears are bad and they should trade Robinson. While their 4-1 record is a bit suspect, this move should be made due to Robinson’s contract situation and where the Bears are at with their quarterback situation. Robinson wants to be taken care of with a new contract, and it’s hard to blame him. It’s also fun to think about what he would be able to do with a real quarterback throwing him that ball. And after spending the first six-plus seasons catching passes from Blake Bortles and Mitch Trubisky, it’s time to set Robinson free.

Potential Destinations: New England, Carolina, Cincinnati

We’ve already touched on the need that the Patriots have for help at the receiver position, but Robinson and Cam Newton would be a real treat if they could develop chemistry. In Carolina, the Panthers are a surprising 3-2 on the season despite missing Christian McCaffrey for the last three games. Getting a bit more offensive firepower could help to turn that team from a fun story to a real playoff contender in the NFC South. As for Cincinnati, it’s a bit odd to see them trading AJ Green earlier in this column and then trading for Allen Robinson here, but with the need for a new contract, pairing up Robinson with Joe Burrow wouldn’t just be fun this year, but it could be a great connection for the next five years.

This might be the least surprising name on this list. Zach Ertz and the Eagles have been trending towards a breakup after the team broke off contract talks with the star TE before the season started. Ertz was upset with the move at the time and with the Eagles struggles so far this sesaon, nobody would be shocked if the team tried to move him in the coming weeks. While you can't pin the Eagles' struggles on Ertz, something is going on this season with him and Carson Wentz because Ertz only has 19 catches for 139 yards and a single touchdown. Those numbers are way down from Ertz's career averages.

Potential Destinations: New England, Arizona, Green Bay

These are essentially the same teams as the David Njoku slide, but we added the New England Patriots, becuase they've long been looking for a TE upgrade after Rob Gronkowski retired a few years back.
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htismaqe 11:26 AM 10-29-2020
Originally Posted by mkp785:
https://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2018bprice.php

Walterfootball has a decent write-up of him. 6'4, 315lbs and from a football factory like OSU makes him intriguing if Cincy lets him go. They've been a shitshow so maybe he just slipped through the cracks between the coaching changes and we can get a 1st round talent at a fraction of the price.
Yep, it's a classic reclamation project scenario.

A high-upside former 1st-round pick, only halfway through his rookie contract, and could be had for probably a 5th rounder.

If he lives up to his potential, you landed a starter for next to nothing. If he doesn't, you hide him on the depth chart and let him go when it makes sense financially.
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mkp785 11:34 AM 10-29-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Yep, it's a classic reclamation project scenario.

A high-upside former 1st-round pick, only halfway through his rookie contract, and could be had for probably a 5th rounder.

If he lives up to his potential, you landed a starter for next to nothing. If he doesn't, you hide him on the depth chart and let him go when it makes sense financially.
I like betting on the chances that the Bengals misread a 1st rd pick and didn't know what they had. If we can get him for a 5th or lower Veach should pull the trigger. Can't be much worse than what we've had in the middle of our line.
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GingaChief 12:06 PM 10-29-2020
Would anyone take Evan Engram from the Giants to be a back up to Trav? He's in his last year though.
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Wilson8 12:38 PM 10-29-2020
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Does Price just flat out suck, then?

The bengals seem really reluctant to play him, even though they invested a lot in him and have a dire need to protect the future of the franchise.

Why is he being talked about so much? Just connecting the dots?
To fully appreciate Billy Price you have to look at his past at Ohio State. He was originally recruited as a DT but switched over and started at left guard his first three games and then switched to right guard his next 12 games. Ohio State won the National Championship that year. The next season Billy started every game at left guard. His junior year he was selected as a team captain and started every game as a right guard. His Senior year he played center and won the Rimington Award as the nation's best center. Price started 55 straight games at Ohio State. Billy tore his pectoral muscle doing the bench press at the NFL Combine which required surgery. Billy Price was a 1st (21) round draft pick in 2018. In his first season with the Bengals he had 10 starts while battling a foot injury. Zac Taylor and a new coaching staff came in 2019. Trey Hopkins won the starting center job. Billy played in 16 games in 2019, but only started at guard 8 times. Because Zac Taylor and staff like their guards bigger, Billy tried to gain weight prior to the 2020 season and got up to 326 pounds. He is now considered their super sub and can play anywhere along the interior, but has only played 113 snaps on offense.

Connecting the dots...
1. Kansas City Chiefs need offensive line help
2. Billy Price, a former 1st round pick, has fallen out of favor in Cincinnati and is not being used.
3. Price's contract is affordable for the Chiefs.
4. Billy can play anywhere on interior.

BUT...none of this matters because the Bengals offensive line is hurt right now and Bengals cannot afford to surrender Billy Price. Because of COVID-19 protocals, any new linemen would not be able to play this week.
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Wilson8 12:48 PM 10-29-2020
Originally Posted by GingaChief:
Would anyone take Evan Engram from the Giants to be a back up to Trav? He's in his last year though.
The problem for the Chiefs in picking him up would be his contract.

He's not bad this year with a prorated $1,926,621, but his 5th year option has been picked up and that for 2021, is $6,013,000.

I could see the Chiefs trying to improve at the backup TE spot but it will have to be low cost.
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KChiefs1 12:54 PM 10-29-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
He got hurt after 10 games his rookie season and then came into camp with another nagging problem and got benched.

He's just fallen out of favor with the coaching staff because of it.

He was injured at the combine. Got injured his rookie season. Came into his 2nd season with a foot issue. While he was out, they liked what they saw out of his backup and he got benched.
Sounds like a great pickup! :-)
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Wilson8 01:14 PM 10-29-2020
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Sounds like a great pickup! :-)
That's kind of where we are at though.

We signed 30 year old OL Bryan Witzmann to the Practice Squad yesterday.

Any player that the Chiefs pickup is going to have flaws but you just hope that with the Chiefs team and coaching, they can help the team.
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htismaqe 01:52 PM 10-29-2020
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Sounds like a great pickup! :-)
You're not going to get an instant upgrade at this time of year.

It's all about buying low and maximizing opportunity.

Trading a 5th or 6th for Price has zero downside. It has nothing but upside. He was a 1st round pick for a reason.

This is identical to the Bell signing. It's a zero-risk opportunity.
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O.city 02:10 PM 10-29-2020
After listening to Terez and Charles Robinsons pod today, I think you sit tight. Roll anything and everything you can into next year. With the cap going down, there's gonna be some guys cut form places and teams won't have much to spend. Could get a nice deal with a midlevel guy for cheap.

We will probably have to cut lose some guys too though.
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mkp785 04:13 PM 10-29-2020
Originally Posted by Wilson8:
To fully appreciate Billy Price you have to look at his past at Ohio State. He was originally recruited as a DT but switched over and started at left guard his first three games and then switched to right guard his next 12 games. Ohio State won the National Championship that year. The next season Billy started every game at left guard. His junior year he was selected as a team captain and started every game as a right guard. His Senior year he played center and won the Rimington Award as the nation's best center. Price started 55 straight games at Ohio State. Billy tore his pectoral muscle doing the bench press at the NFL Combine which required surgery. Billy Price was a 1st (21) round draft pick in 2018. In his first season with the Bengals he had 10 starts while battling a foot injury. Zac Taylor and a new coaching staff came in 2019. Trey Hopkins won the starting center job. Billy played in 16 games in 2019, but only started at guard 8 times. Because Zac Taylor and staff like their guards bigger, Billy tried to gain weight prior to the 2020 season and got up to 326 pounds. He is now considered their super sub and can play anywhere along the interior, but has only played 113 snaps on offense.

Connecting the dots...
1. Kansas City Chiefs need offensive line help
2. Billy Price, a former 1st round pick, has fallen out of favor in Cincinnati and is not being used.
3. Price's contract is affordable for the Chiefs.
4. Billy can play anywhere on interior.

BUT...none of this matters because the Bengals offensive line is hurt right now and Bengals cannot afford to surrender Billy Price. Because of COVID-19 protocals, any new linemen would not be able to play this week.
Bengals have a bye next week though, so hopefully a trade could develop sometime Monday or Tuesday. We'd have to sit him, then we have our bye so he would be in theory ready for Vegas and SNF the following week-giving him more then enough time to catch up with everything.
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JakeF 05:04 PM 10-29-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I would definitely look at IOL before LB.

I don't see LB as a huge need, especially considering how much nickel they run.
It's like we are playing defense without any linebackers at all. That hurts our run defense and our TE/RB coverage. It really shows when we use Safeties at LB.

A stud LB would help a ton in my book.


We can definitely use an upgrade at C/G though too. We have to keep Mahomes alive. If he gets skittish it would be a huge blow to the franchise.
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htismaqe 06:38 PM 10-29-2020
Originally Posted by JakeF:
It's like we are playing defense without any linebackers at all. That hurts our run defense and our TE/RB coverage. It really shows when we use Safeties at LB.
Sorry, I don't at all agree.

Originally Posted by JakeF:
A stud LB would help a ton in my book.
Well, we're going to have to hope that's Willie Gay because a stud LB isn't walking through that door.
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JakeF 07:48 PM 10-29-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Sorry, I don't at all agree.
Fair enough
Originally Posted by :
Well, we're going to have to hope that's Willie Gay because a stud LB isn't walking through that door.
I like Willie Gay, i just didn't think he was going to develop quickly enough for this year.
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pugsnotdrugs19 07:49 PM 10-29-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
After listening to Terez and Charles Robinsons pod today, I think you sit tight. Roll anything and everything you can into next year. With the cap going down, there's gonna be some guys cut form places and teams won't have much to spend. Could get a nice deal with a midlevel guy for cheap.

We will probably have to cut lose some guys too though.
There’s no need pressing enough on the roster currently to make a trade IMO. Not for the financial cost that comes with it.

If you get another crack at a cheap stud such as Bell, that’s what you want.
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htismaqe 07:51 PM 10-29-2020
Originally Posted by JakeF:
I like Willie Gay, i just didn't think he was going to develop quickly enough for this year.
The LB group is plenty good enough right now to win it all. They were last year, even without Gay.

I'm not overly concerned about it unless they start getting injured.

Defensive line depth and the offensive line is more concerning right now.
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