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Washington DC and The Holy Land>The Unhinged Right: Death Threats against members of congress
RodeoPants2 12:56 PM 04-13-2019
The crazy right, encouraged and incited by trump the racist idiot, are now launching death threats at democratic members of congress.

http://tennesseestar.com/2019/01/19/...hes-receiving/

https://www.stargazette.com/story/ne...an/3377625002/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8833751.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.15dd13d4e75c
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vailpass 06:21 AM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by RodeoPants2:
https://www.kiva.org/

https://www.givedirectly.org/

https://www.ourfamily.org/

https://www.aclu.org/

And my local PBS affiliate
:-)

I'll donate a urine specimen to each of them.
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scho63 06:27 AM 04-15-2019
I bet Republicans get just as many death threats as Dems if not more.

Another stupid thread brought to you by the queen of dumb threads: rodeopanties.
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stevieray 07:14 AM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
Nope, and you won't demonstrate how they do nor am I interested in debating the moral superiority found within the scribblings of nomadic desert savages.

I'm a bit past the whole atheism 2.0 thing.
I won't ? like you get to determine that...? thanks for the chuckle.


got bad news for you:.pimping scripture for the sole purpose to discredit it is straight up atheism, and isn't a new approach.
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IowaHawkeyeChief 07:18 AM 04-15-2019
Nothing but trying to excuse horrible rhetoric...
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Randallflagg 07:29 AM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
$5 x 5 = $25 Then there's the "the world owes me, I'm a liberal" fee, so $25 - $500 - "The world owes me $475" (and a sammich)!

:-)




Arby's!! We HAVE THE MEATS!!!
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sully1983 09:49 AM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by RodeoPants2:
The crazy right, encouraged and incited by trump the racist idiot, are now launching death threats at democratic members of congress.

http://tennesseestar.com/2019/01/19/...hes-receiving/

https://www.stargazette.com/story/ne...an/3377625002/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8833751.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.15dd13d4e75c
meh let me know when a conservative republican shoots up a baseball game similar to what that crazy liberal did to Scalise & company .
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Lex Luthor 10:32 AM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with threatening the lives of radical socialists looking to infiltrate our govt as well as those who support Sharia Law and sympathize w/ terrorist organizations.

Not gonna hear me complain if someone ends up blowing their brains off. The world is a much better and safer place without these kid of people in charge.

Go **** yourself Rodeo Clown. Go forgive your parents for failing you in life, then go sit in your parked car on some railroad tracks you ****ing loser.

Trump 2020
:-)
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Lex Luthor 10:43 AM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by Bob Dole:
So 3 articles making anecdotal claims of threats and one article documenting some kook threatening a muslim = UNHINGED RIGHT!

Got it.
I agree with you. Anecdotal "evidence" is not evidence. Anyone can cite specific stories to support whatever conclusion they want to draw to support their agenda.

But what about statistical evidence? That's not quite as easy to dismiss.

I obviously have no idea if the statistics presented in the article below are correct or if the inference is correct. However, it would be nice if our Commander in Chief would stop using rhetoric that inflames some of his followers. I don't recall any other President doing that.

Originally Posted by :
Counties that hosted a 2016 Trump rally saw a 226 percent increase in hate crimes

There is suggestive evidence that Trump’s rhetoric matters.

During an interview with CBS’s “Face the Nation” this past Sunday, Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) lambasted President Trump for emboldening white nationalism after a young man killed at least 50 people at two New Zealand mosques. Kaine was referring to Trump’s answer after a reporter asked whether he sees "today that white nationalism is a rising threat around the world?” Trump responded, “I don’t really.”

This is not the first time Trump has been accused of catering to white nationalists after a terrorist attack. At an August 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, a young white man rammed his car into a crowd of counterprotesters, killing Heather Heyer. Afterward, Trump insisted that “there’s blame on both sides” for the violence.

Then in October 2018, a gunman killed 11 congregants at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh. When Trump announced plans to visit the synagogue, many people in Squirrel Hill, the city’s predominantly Jewish neighborhood, took to the streets demanding first that Trump renounce white nationalism before paying his respects to the victims.

Trump has strongly rejected any charges that he’s to blame, tweeting Monday:


Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
The Fake News Media is working overtime to blame me for the horrible attack in New Zealand. They will have to work very hard to prove that one. So Ridiculous!

Our research finds that Kaine could be correct, however: Trump’s rhetoric may encourage hate crimes, as we explain below.

We examined this question, given that so many politicians and pundits accuse Trump of emboldening white nationalists. White nationalist leaders seem to agree, as leaders including Richard Spencer and David Duke have publicly supported Trump’s candidacy and presidency, even if they still criticize him for not going far enough. The New Zealand shooter even referred to Trump as a “renewed symbol of white identity.”

So, do attitudes like these have real world consequences? Recent research on far-right groups suggests that they do, especially when these attitudes are embraced and encourage by peers. Specifically, the quantity of neo-Nazi and racist skinhead groups active in a state leads to increased reports of hate crimes within that state.

How we did our research

Using the Anti-Defamation League’s Hate, Extremism, Anti-Semitism, Terrorism map data (HEAT map), we examined whether there was a correlation between the counties that hosted one of Trump’s 275 presidential campaign rallies in 2016 and increased incidents of hate crimes in subsequent months.

To test this, we aggregated hate-crime incident data and Trump rally data to the county level and then used statistical tools to estimate a rally’s impact. We included controls for factors such as the county’s crime rates, its number of active hate groups, its minority populations, its percentage with college educations, its location in the country and the month when the rallies occurred.

We found that counties that had hosted a 2016 Trump campaign rally saw a 226 percent increase in reported hate crimes over comparable counties that did not host such a rally.

Of course, our analysis cannot be certain it was Trump’s campaign rally rhetoric that caused people to commit more hate crimes in the host county. However, suggestions that this effect can be explained through a plethora of faux hate crimes are at best unrealistic. In fact, this charge is frequently used as a political tool to dismiss concerns about hate crimes. Research shows it is far more likely that hate crime statistics are considerably lower because of underreporting.

Additionally, it is hard to discount a “Trump effect” when a considerable number of these reported hate crimes reference Trump. According to the ADL’s 2016 data, these incidents included vandalism, intimidation and assault.

What’s more, according to the FBI’s Universal Crime report in 2017, reported hate crimes increased 17 percent over 2016. Recent research also shows that reading or hearing Trump’s statements of bias against particular groups makes people more likely to write offensive things about the groups he targets.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.6a266e3e9379
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Lex Luthor 10:50 AM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by sully1983:
meh let me know when a conservative republican shoots up a baseball game similar to what that crazy liberal did to Scalise & company .
How about if instead we let you know when someone shoots and kills dozens of Muslims in their place of worship, and it turns out the killer was a white supremacist who wrote a manifesto praising Donald Trump?

This asshole killed 49 people and wounded 20 others.

New Zealand mosque attacks suspect praised Trump in manifesto

This is obviously anecdotal evidence, and as such doesn't show a causal correlation between between Trump's rhetoric and this guy's terrorist rampage.

But you asked for an example. Ask and you shall receive.
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Frazod 10:52 AM 04-15-2019
Hey, look who got a day pass from the asylum!
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Just Passin' By 10:58 AM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
If you found someone who followed the bible to the letter you'd want them in prison.

You don't have to accept that secularism castrated the worst aspects of christianity in spite of the mountain of evidence, nor am I interested in arguing about it.

He was the one prosthelytizing to me, not the other way around. He knows I have no interest in his voodoo.
Confusing the notion of following whole of the bible with the notion of following the New Testament, in terms of christian behavioral doctrine, is a non-believer's parlor trick.
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BIG_DADDY 11:05 AM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Hey, look who got a day pass from the asylum!
:-)
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WhiteWhale 01:38 PM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
Confusing the notion of following whole of the bible with the notion of following the New Testament, in terms of christian behavioral doctrine, is a non-believer's parlor trick.
Yeah man, which is why christians NEVER quote the old testament.

They just use that as an excuse to cherry pick from it. It's not a holy book, it's a chinese buffet!

Now argue with yourself. I don't care about this nonsense. Virgins don't have babies, people don't come back from the dead, and snakes/asses don't talk. I know this is important to you, but to me it's like arguing about the virtues of Voodoo. Christianity is a grace based faith anyway, so good behavior isn't really even that important.
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vailpass 01:51 PM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor:
I agree with you. Anecdotal "evidence" is not evidence. Anyone can cite specific stories to support whatever conclusion they want to draw to support their agenda.

But what about statistical evidence? That's not quite as easy to dismiss.

I obviously have no idea if the statistics presented in the article below are correct or if the inference is correct. However, it would be nice if our Commander in Chief would stop using rhetoric that inflames some of his followers. I don't recall any other President doing that.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.6a266e3e9379
If you ever want to know about the relationship between correlation and causality just let me know.
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LOCOChief 02:12 PM 04-15-2019
Originally Posted by RodeoPants2:
lol I'm more successful than you can ever hope to be
Sure you are sweetheart you sell lotions at a mall kiosk
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