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Nzoner's Game Room>Glazer: Chiefs expect Mahomes to play in AFCCG
Gary Cooper 12:51 PM 01-18-2021
Originally Posted by philfree:
Last time we played them we ran the ball down their face so I'd say there is a chance.
They were committed to rushing few linemen and playing the pass. The Chiefs were taking what the defense gave them.

Against Henne, they'd have more defenders at the line of scrimmage. They'd expect KC to run more. Also more blitzes. The Chiefs O-Line has not seen a lot of blitzes because defenses don't want to blitz Mahomes much. Henne doesn't scare Buffalo's defense.
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Megatron96 01:05 PM 01-18-2021
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor:
You don’t think Andy could scheme a game with Henne at qb that could put him in a position to win? Not saying we can win it with Henne, but I think we could make a game of it with the weapons we have, and a good plan. Not like the Bills defense is stellar!
Problem is that execution would have to be pretty perfect. Though it probably could be done, it would just be a lot more of a nail-biter than anyone on CP could bear.

Let's not forget just how lousy BUF looked vs. BAL a couple days ago. Which is to say they looked like crap. On both sides of the ball. If not for the world's greatest kicker shanking two consecutive FGs and Lamar inexplicably throwing that pick-6, the game would've ended either win BAL winning outright, or BUF winning 10-9.

And that BAL defense gave up 35 to us in both of our previous meetings. For BUF to be that ineffective against the same exact defense is telling.
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arrwheader 01:10 PM 01-18-2021
I think if Mahomes some how didn't play, Andy could scheme something that would at least keep the game interesting for a bit and if they got just enough plays maybe just maybe they could compete for a win.

A lot of luck in that though. They lose I think without Mahomes but I wouldn't say that they couldn't at least make it competitive at least for a little while.
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IrishChief 01:14 PM 01-18-2021
With the Mahomes situation up in the air (personally think he will play) will the Bills need to prepare all week for Mahomes and Henne as QB? Keeping them second quessing is obviously a plus for us
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TomBarndtsTwin 01:21 PM 01-18-2021
Originally Posted by IrishChief:
With the Mahomes situation up in the air (personally think he will play) will the Bills need to prepare all week for Mahomes and Henne as QB? Keeping them second quessing is obviously a plus for us
Lol, I don’t think they’ll do a lot of ‘preparing for’ on Henne. Think they’ll just assume it’s going to be Mahomes, prepare accordingly, and if they show up Sunday and see Chad coming to lineup under center they’ll just consider it a pleasant surprise.
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philfree 01:20 PM 01-18-2021
We held the Bills to 17 points in the regular season. We just held the Browns to 17 points. Henne put up 21 points in his only start and that was without Hill and Kelce and other starters as well. I think considering all of that if Mahomes can't play we still have a chance to get the win.
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saphojunkie 01:34 PM 01-18-2021
Right after Mahomes went down then wobbled up my friend from the USAF special forces texted me: "Don't think it's a concussion. Sharp blow to the side of the neck causes unconsciousness by shock to the carotid artery, jugular vein, and Vagus nerve."

Not a "choke out."


Fun fact: you don't "choke" the carotid. You strangle it. So, anyone banning "carotid choke holds" are banning something that doesn't exist.
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loochy 01:39 PM 01-18-2021
Originally Posted by saphojunkie:
Right after Mahomes went down then wobbled up my friend from the USAF special forces texted me: "Don't think it's a concussion. Sharp blow to the side of the neck causes unconsciousness by shock to the carotid artery, jugular vein, and Vagus nerve."

Not a "choke out."


Fun fact: you don't "choke" the carotid. You strangle it. So, anyone banning "carotid choke holds" are banning something that doesn't exist.

From what I saw, this has to be it. A concussion just doesn't make sense.


What kind of long term impacts could he face from this, if any?
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dmahurin 01:56 PM 01-18-2021
Originally Posted by loochy:
From what I saw, this has to be it. A concussion just doesn't make sense.


What kind of long term impacts could he face from this, if any?
Nothing really, I've taken a few pretty close to 100% hits as well as hundreds of 20-25% blows doing tactics training over a 10 year period of doing armed security. Its an instant leg wobbling, eye rattling experience. You're fine shortly afterwards. He may have some soreness and stiffness associated with just getting hit, slammed, dragged(whatever combination caused it).
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Megatron96 02:01 PM 01-18-2021
Originally Posted by loochy:
From what I saw, this has to be it. A concussion just doesn't make sense.


What kind of long term impacts could he face from this, if any?
None. When I was a kid I practiced judo from the time I was 4 to 26 years old. Started learning 'choke holds' at about 15? Had them practiced on me a few times a month by my sensei or my brother for over a decade for demo purposes, at least. So at a minimum, maybe 200 times in 12 years?

The only way you can cause a real injury would be to hold the choke for an excessive period of time. Like a minute or more.

In practice, as soon as the person exhibits the classic loss of consciousness response, i.e., fluttering of eyelids, loss of control of extremities, etc., you release the choke and begin resuscitation procedure. Properly executed a carotid choke should take no more than 5 seconds. Revival can take up to or more than one minute. In that period, you see basically what Mahomes went through when he tried to get up. Loss of equilibrium, loss of control of extremities, slack-jaw, 1000-yd stare, etc.
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scho63 01:35 PM 01-18-2021
Mahomes got.......



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saphojunkie 01:38 PM 01-18-2021
A perfectly executed rear naked still takes a few seconds. Blunt trauma to the carotid is instant.
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TomBarndtsTwin 01:49 PM 01-18-2021
The same long term impacts you would face if you placed both hands around your neck, squeezed tightly, and caused yourself to pass out.

Stupid, yes, but nothing really in terms of long term impact. Unless you decide to start making it a regular hobby.




(Yes, I may have done this once when I was younger)
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jerryaldini 02:04 PM 01-18-2021
Call me a homer, but with Henne I'd still have the Bills as only maybe 3 point favorites. Versus SD 23-32 218 2 TD 0 INT without the starters. Yesterday 6-8 66. Just has to feed our weapons. After watching Allen in big games still not sold.

Mahomes almost sure to play and will be fun to watch. But seeing Henne beat Allen would be so sweet as well.
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eastsidedawg 02:13 PM 01-18-2021
Originally Posted by jerryaldini:
Call me a homer, but with Henne I'd still have the Bills as only maybe 3 point favorites. Versus SD 23-32 218 2 TD 0 INT without the starters. Yesterday 6-8 66. Just has to feed our weapons. After watching Allen in big games still not sold.

Mahomes almost sure to play and will be fun to watch. But seeing Henne beat Allen would be so sweet as well.
yea i dont think henne is beating the bills....but dont worry mahomes will play. i would be more worried about his toe going forward it really looked like it was bothering him.
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