Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by lewdog:
You pussies wouldn't last a day in healthcare.
I spent a hot weekend in a tyvek suit and N95 mask helping my brother with a DIY project ripping out insulation that had asbestos in it.
And I have hated N95 masks since.
I wouldn't make it a day in health care.
That said, wearing a casual breathable mask for fifteen minutes in the grocery store is no big deal.
It sounds like some are starting to think a clear shield that is open on the bottom might do as well and it is more breathable. I guess it prevents droplets from being sprayed as far from the person wearing it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan:
I spent a hot weekend in a tyvek suit and N95 mask helping my brother with a DIY project ripping out insulation that had asbestos in it.
And I have hated N95 masks since.
I wouldn't make it a day in health care.
That said, wearing a casual breathable mask for fifteen minutes in the grocery store is no big deal.
It sounds like some are starting to think a clear shield that is open on the bottom might do as well and it is more breathable. I guess it prevents droplets from being sprayed as far from the person wearing it.
I think mask is better than the shield if you were picking just one . [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Scientists have learned quite a bit about this virus since April 25th and some companies are already claiming success against the virus in early clinical testing.
I'm unconcerned about scientists creating a vaccine and more concerned about its availability in the near future.
yeah, how is that "flu" vaccine working out these days?
The flu death numbers have been high every year, yet there were no lockdowns, distancing, masks, etc....
600K die from heart disease every year
600K die from cancer every year
250K from medical "mistakes" every year
Not to mention accidental deaths, alzheimers, diabetes, etc.
but I am sure the oxygen depriving masks and miracle vaccine will change everything....Stay tuned folks. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunit35:
Lol. For their country? Just because I won’t wear a mask doesn’t mean I’m not pro America. That’s the dumbest shit I’ve heard from you.
Do you even look at the majority of people that wear masks? They don’t wear it over their noses, constantly adjusting their makes with their dirty ass hands.
Maybe a quarter of the people I see wear masks. So 75% of Oklahoma is anti America.
I'll will say people that wear a mask and just leave it over their mouth might be the dumbest of them all.
If you don't want to wear a mask, you don't have to, unless it's required by the business or city/county you are in. But just know that you are propelling this pandemic and potentially costing American lives.
The ignorance of a pretty big part of that 75% is quite startling. Like blatant I won't believe anything you put in front of me about the virus. Refuse to have an open mind.
All you have to do to stop the biggest American pandemic in over 100 years is wear a mask. But because it's not an enemy with a nuclear weapon or a gun, we don't look at it the same way. This thing is going to end up killing more American people than World War 1, but we can't get you to give a shit?
Originally Posted by ARROW2:
yeah, how is that "flu" vaccine working out these days?
The flu death numbers have been high every year, yet there were no lockdowns, distancing, masks, etc....
600K die from heart disease every year
600K die from cancer every year
250K from medical "mistakes" every year
Not to mention accidental deaths, alzheimers, diabetes, etc.
but I am sure the oxygen depriving masks and miracle vaccine will change everything....Stay tuned folks.
Because half the population is to stubborn to get the readily available vaccine. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
I'll will say people that wear a mask and just leave it over their mouth might be the dumbest of them all.
If you don't want to wear a mask, you don't have to, unless it's required by the business or city/county you are in. But just know that you are propelling this pandemic and potentially costing American lives.
The ignorance of a pretty big part of that 75% is quite startling. Like blatant I won't believe anything you put in front of me about the virus. Refuse to have an open mind.
All you have to do to stop the biggest American pandemic in over 100 years is wear a mask. But because it's not an enemy with a nuclear weapon or a gun, we don't look at it the same way. This thing is going to end up killing more American people than World War 1, but we can't get you to give a shit?
Just to be clear, you’re giving up on your original idiotic idea for everyone to have N95 masks judging by the way you’ve changed the narrative, right? Or is all of this referring to healthy people wearing N95 masks everywhere still? The hyperbole ‘Merica stuff just seems to be a smoke screen so people don’t catch on to the stupidity of that idea. You’re agreeing now that it was an overreactive idea? [Reply]
Republicans refused to do whatever they think Democrats want them to do. It doesn't matter if it puts their lives in danger. It doesn't matter if it's a simple thing. They would rather die than to be seen 'giving in' to Democrats/Media/etc. That's just the truth.
Originally Posted by JakeF:
Republicans refused to do whatever they think Democrats want them to do. It doesn't matter if it puts their lives in danger. It doesn't matter if it's a simple thing. They would rather die than to be seen 'giving in' to Democrats/Media/etc. That's just the truth.
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You could try using reverse psychology but that might put the majority of the population at risk. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
I'll will say people that wear a mask and just leave it over their mouth might be the dumbest of them all.
If you don't want to wear a mask, you don't have to, unless it's required by the business or city/county you are in. But just know that you are propelling this pandemic and potentially costing American lives.
The ignorance of a pretty big part of that 75% is quite startling. Like blatant I won't believe anything you put in front of me about the virus. Refuse to have an open mind.
All you have to do to stop the biggest American pandemic in over 100 years is wear a mask. But because it's not an enemy with a nuclear weapon or a gun, we don't look at it the same way. This thing is going to end up killing more American people than World War 1, but we can't get you to give a shit?
No, you have to accept a false premise that you have it and are asymptomatic., and therefore a "danger" [Reply]
Originally Posted by JakeF:
Republicans refused to do whatever they think Democrats want them to do. It doesn't matter if it puts their lives in danger. It doesn't matter if it's a simple thing. They would rather die than to be seen 'giving in' to Democrats/Media/etc. That's just the truth.
