Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
I'm too lazy to track down the exact stats, but the 2003 team was also in a category of, every other offense to that point in time that had put up "x" amount of stats at least made it to the Super Bowl.
Another reason I so dog on that 2003 defense.
Originally Posted by Sorce:
29.7 Avg for the 2003 team.
After the season, there was an article in the Kansas City paper. Again, I don't remember the exact stats, but it basically said that of the 8 or 10 offenses in the NFL that had ever put up similar numbers over a season, KC was the only one that didn't make the Super Bowl. I don't think the stat was just points per game.
29.7 ave may not sound like a lot now. Scoring has gone up and big pass plays means more teams can score quicker. But points per possession I think is a more useful stat. KC had a lot of long drives with the running game and the defense gave up a lot of long drives in that 2003 season.
The 2003 playoff loss to Indy was 38-31. For a game that featured no punts and only two field goal attempts (IIRC) and not many turnovers (I can only remember the one on Holmes), that is not a lot of total points. There were a lot of slow drives by both teams that resulted in touchdowns. KC had the one field goal attempt, the one turnover, and the clock ran out on them at the end of the half and the end of the game. Every other possession, I believe, resulted in a touchdown. That is efficient even if it only totaled 31 points.
Having a two minute offense can be really important at the end of the half/game, but I don't see why an offense that, for instance, averages 3 points per 3 minute average drive, and puts up more total points, is better than one that averages 4 points per 9 minute drive and gives the other team fewer total possessions. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan: I'm too lazy to track down the exact stats, but the 2003 team was also in a category of, every other offense to that point in time that had put up "x" amount of stats at least made it to the Super Bowl.
Another reason I so dog on that 2003 defense.
After the season, there was an article in the Kansas City paper. Again, I don't remember the exact stats, but it basically said that of the 8 or 10 offenses in the NFL that had ever put up similar numbers over a season, KC was the only one that didn't make the Super Bowl. I don't think the stat was just points per game.
29.7 ave may not sound like a lot now. Scoring has gone up and big pass plays means more teams can score quicker. But points per possession I think is a more useful stat. KC had a lot of long drives with the running game and the defense gave up a lot of long drives in that 2003 season.
The 2003 playoff loss to Indy was 38-31. For a game that featured no punts and only two field goal attempts (IIRC) and not many turnovers (I can only remember the one on Holmes), that is not a lot of total points. There were a lot of slow drives by both teams that resulted in touchdowns. KC had the one field goal attempt, the one turnover, and the clock ran out on them at the end of the half and the end of the game. Every other possession, I believe, resulted in a touchdown. That is efficient even if it only totaled 31 points.
Having a two minute offense can be really important at the end of the half/game, but I don't see why an offense that, for instance, averages 3 points per 3 minute average drive, and puts up more total points, is better than one that averages 4 points per 9 minute drive and gives the other team fewer total possessions.
Interesting interview with Louis Riddick where they’re talking about how the Houston Rockets want to trade 4 first round picks for Jimmy Butler, and they ask Lou if there are any players in the NFL that he’d trade that many picks for. He of course says Mahomes:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Interesting interview with Louis Riddick where they’re talking about how the Houston Rockets want to trade 4 first round picks for Jimmy Butler, and they ask Lou if there are any players in the NFL that he’d trade that many picks for. He of course says Mahomes:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Interesting interview with Louis Riddick where they’re talking about how the Houston Rockets want to trade 4 first round picks for Jimmy Butler, and they ask Lou if there are any players in the NFL that he’d trade that many picks for. He of course says Mahomes:
He even jokes that he’d give up on the other 52 players on the roster to have Mahomes. :-)
Complete hypothetical here but if you were in Brett Veach’s shoes, is there any price good enough to get Mahomes and if so what would it take?
Can you put a price on THE future face of the NFL? I guess if I have to name a price... Top tier QB with 1-2 top tier defensive players as well as 2 first round draft picks?
IDK, whatever I feel would be fair would be too outlandish to ask for. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Interesting interview with Louis Riddick where they’re talking about how the Houston Rockets want to trade 4 first round picks for Jimmy Butler, and they ask Lou if there are any players in the NFL that he’d trade that many picks for. He of course says Mahomes:
