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Nzoner's Game Room>My final Geno thread before the draft
Mr. Flopnuts 10:05 AM 04-07-2013
Simple question. Will you be upset if the Chiefs draft Geno Smith? If so, why?
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O.city 08:02 PM 04-07-2013
So your ok with him giving 100 million dollars to a guy he doesn't think is a franchise player?
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Messier 08:03 PM 04-07-2013
I think the term "franchise quarterback" is being thrown around pretty loosely. There aren't even that many in the NFL.
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O.city 08:04 PM 04-07-2013
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Let me pose a question?

Which usage of resources is worse?

A) spending a first, second and third round pick on a solid game managing qb AND a potential franchise quarterback prospect

Or

B) spending 2 firsts, 2 seconds AND two thirds on the offensive line...with one second and one third being backups?
As bad as the anti qb guys are some of you guys are getting close.


All those previous picks on the ol were made by the previous regime. It doesn't matter at this point if the new regime doesn't think they are good enough
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BossChief 08:05 PM 04-07-2013
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58:
This.

I'm far from thrilled we spent another early R2 pick on a game manager, but I'm more concerned with the future of the QB position than the "right now."

If they feel its important to spend their first two picks on the right now and the future, I'm all for it.
Yup

Originally Posted by Messier:
I don't think Reid thought either Vick, or Kolb were franchise QBs.
Gave Vick 100 million and traded Kolb for a second and a first round quality corner.

He absolutely saw both as franchise guys.
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O.city 08:05 PM 04-07-2013
Originally Posted by Messier:
I think the term "franchise quarterback" is being thrown around pretty loosely. There aren't even that many in the NFL.
There are quite a few franchise qbs. There aren't many elite qbs.
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B14ckmon 08:06 PM 04-07-2013
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Let me pose a question?

Which usage of resources is worse?

A) spending a first, second and third round pick on a solid game managing qb AND a potential franchise quarterback prospect

Or

B) spending 2 firsts, 2 seconds AND two thirds on the offensive line...with one second and one third being backups?
Does it really mater when B is the way your team is going?
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milkman 08:06 PM 04-07-2013
Originally Posted by Messier:
I don't think Reid thought either Vick, or Kolb were franchise QBs.
Kolb might be a question, but like o city points out, you don't give Vick the contract he got if you don't belive him to be a franchise QB, unless you're an idiot.
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Messier 08:08 PM 04-07-2013
Originally Posted by O.city:
So your ok with him giving 100 million dollars to a guy he doesn't think is a franchise player?
Vick already restructured. He's nor gonna make nearly 100 million.
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Messier 08:09 PM 04-07-2013
Originally Posted by milkman:
Kolb might be a question, but like o city points out, you don't give Vick the contract he got if you don't belive him to be a franchise QB, unless you're an idiot.
I'm sure Reid was on board, but blame the GM for the amount.
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O.city 08:09 PM 04-07-2013
Originally Posted by Messier:
Vick already restructured. He's nor gonna make nearly 100 million.
That's a cop out dude. Doesn't dismiss the fact that Reid gave him te contract. He wasn't restructured by Reid
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Messier 08:10 PM 04-07-2013
Originally Posted by O.city:
That's a cop out dude. Doesn't dismiss the fact that Reid gave him te contract. He wasn't restructured by Reid
Does Reid handle contracts?
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O.city 08:18 PM 04-07-2013
So you think Reid had nothing to do with Vick getting the deal he got?

If he didn't view his as a franchise QB, the Gm signed him to a deal of that caliber without the ok from his HC?
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stonedstooge 08:21 PM 04-07-2013
Originally Posted by O.city:
So you think Reid had nothing to do with Vick getting the deal he got?

If he didn't view his as a franchise QB, the Gm signed him to a deal of that caliber without the ok from his HC?
That's how I'd handle it/Pioli
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Messier 08:27 PM 04-07-2013
Originally Posted by O.city:
So you think Reid had nothing to do with Vick getting the deal he got?

If he didn't view his as a franchise QB, the Gm signed him to a deal of that caliber without the ok from his HC?
I'm sure Reid said we need to sign Vick. I don't think he came up with amount. Reid still likes Vick. Before he restructured, I thought Vick was the frontrunner to come here. Reid had some glowing words about him.

So, yes, I'll take back Vick, Reid thought he was a franchise QB.
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RealSNR 08:27 PM 04-07-2013
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Geno is not a franchise QB. That's why you are not Nobody believes he's a franchise QB prospect. If they did, than he would be the first pick in the draft easily and the 1st, 3rd, 7th and 8th teams in the draft wouldn't have gotten veteran QB's.

Joeckel would be better than Albert for multiple reasons that are easily specified.

An OT is the best prospect in the draft and Dorsey is going to stick to his word and draft BPA. Idk what is so hard to understand about that?
Answer the question
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