Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
People on here seem to have no concept that rebuilding program takes 3-5 years. I always get shit for it in the college football thread same can apply to your basketball team. Martin did a very good job his first year, other theb tonight they've been pretty competitive. That's all you can really ask for this year.
Well this is year 3 and they're showing zero growth, both individually and as a team. Oh, and the recruiting is the worst in the SEC. [Reply]
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Well this is year 3 and they're showing zero growth, both individually and as a team. Oh, and the recruiting is the worst in the SEC.
They've been pretty competitive hard to judge a team building playing night 2 early in the season. Tired legs and all. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
People on here seem to have no concept that rebuilding program takes 3-5 years. I always get shit for it in the college football thread same can apply to your basketball team. Martin did a very good job his first year, other theb tonight they've been pretty competitive. That's all you can really ask for this year.
Not when you’re paying a guy top 20 salary, which they are. This isn’t football. They shouldn’t be struggling to be a bubble team. And the recruiting has careened downhill since year 1. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Not when you’re paying a guy top 20 salary, which they are. This isn’t football. They shouldn’t be struggling to be a bubble team. And the recruiting has careened downhill since year 1.
Its early but they've been competitive. You look for positives like that and go into year 4 with high expectations. If the record doesnt reflect that then you should start to question.
It's not viable to can him this year and expect to find a competent coach that will come to your program and get you where you need to go. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Not when you’re paying a guy top 20 salary, which they are. This isn’t football. They shouldn’t be struggling to be a bubble team. And the recruiting has careened downhill since year 1.
Cuonzo’s recruiting style doesn’t rely on having a roster filled with multiple one and dones.
Give him time. He’s a good recruiter and he is what he is at this point, a clean, above average coach who will have a consistent floor(tournament with NITs) and a relatively low ceiling. There’s nothing wrong with that but to act as if he’s anything else at this point is misjudging what his track record is as well as what the program aspires to do. If Mizzou wanted to change those expectations, they should have hired a different coach or have Cuonzo significantly change his recruiting style.
And basketball is like football in that it takes time, unless you recruit one and dones to fill the majority of your roster. [Reply]
The student section was essentially empty but that's not surprising as school hasn't started back up yet so they're not in town.
Disappointing game - just could not buy a bucket. Pinson was just an Nth off all night; had 2 three pointers halfway down that rimmed out and a couple bunnies that he did a great job driving to create that he also just ticked off the rim. Mark Smith was as passive as I've ever seen him; wasn't looking for his shot and wasn't terribly active on defense. Was glad to see Jackson looking for ways to get involved and happy to see McKinney get some early run even if he's clearly not ready yet.
They did some good things last night but they just couldn't shoot. And unfortunately, TN started drilling 3s late to pull ahead. Now that doesn't say anything about the 3 or 4 WIDE OPEN three balls they hit earlier in the game when the D was just not closing out on shooters, but some of those shots TN hit late were tough, contested balls that TN doesn't usually hit and last night they did.
And not to go Full Pete or anything, but I still do not understand how Mizzou can't get calls at home. I swear they get better officiating on the road than they do at Mizzou Arena. And last night it was ONE FUCKING GUY. Shorter black dude with the shaved head was getting all up in his emotions anytime he got to blow a whistle on Mizzou. The other 2 weren't generally boning us but holy shit, there were at least 4 questionable calls last night that the one official emphatically called against Mizzou and it really bogged things down in the middle of that game (when Mizzou held a lead with about 5 left to play, IIRC).
It's hard to watch this team continue to regress offensively and believe Martin's a long-term answer. I REALLY like the guy, but this is a stone-aged offense. I'm a relatively informed basketball fan but have never played it at an organized level. When I can see the difference between the system Barnes is running and the one Martin is running, that's a pretty big problem. Someone who hasn't played organized basketball shouldn't be able to watch those two squads and realize "Damn, they're just far more creative on offense..."
They can't fire Cuonzo until 2021, but I have to believe they can get him an assistant that can do something about the offensive efficiency. [Reply]
Tilmon seems to be a turnover machine (16 so far this year) along with his stupid fouls. Sometimes he flashes but I also think sometimes the team plays better when he is not in. [Reply]
The lowest-ranked KenPom teams to beat Missouri at Mizzou Arena (ratings at the time of the game) 19-20: Charleston Southern, No. 313 14-15: UMKC, 286 16-17: Eastern Illinois, 247 16-17: Lipscomb, 235 05-06: Sam Houston State, 182