Interesting article here. Not a huge fan of Verderame but he was at the Super Bowl and he does go to the combine. I think he gets some tips, albeit from Terez (who is a nice guy).
Here is the most interesting part of the article. 2021 and 2022 would be extremely difficult to manage.
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What the Chiefs can do with their money
Looking at Kansas City’s cap situation, it can release wide receiver Sammy Watkins and linebacker Damien Wilson, clearing out $18.5 million in space. Combined with rollover money and already existing room, that’s enough cash for Veach to tag Jones, re-sign a few other pending free agents and extend Patrick Mahomes.
Speaking of Mahomes, the 24-year-old quarterback is likely to soon be the highest-paid player in the league. This is another important factor to consider.
Let’s play GM for a moment and do the following to the Chiefs’ roster:
•Cut Sammy Watkins
•Cut Damien Wilson
•Cut Cam Erving
Extend Patrick Mahomes on a five-year, $200 million deal
Use franchise tag on Chris Jones
Allow $10 million for free agents and draft picks
Keep $2 million in emergency space
Using the Jared Goff and Carson Wentz extension structures as a template, Mahomes’ cap hit would approximately be $11 million this season. Factor in Jones’ tag and the $12 million outlined above, and Kansas City is laying out $35 million.
The Chiefs could do it. But while it’s palatable for 2020, what about 2021 and beyond?
If Kansas City gave Mahomes the aforementioned extension, his cap number would be enormous in 2021, potentially the full $40 million figure. If the Chiefs also signed Jones to Clark’s exact deal, the cap number would be $22.7 million in 2021.
If we account for a slight rise in the NFL salary cap both this year and next, it’ll be around $210 million. Under these parameters, Kansas City would be looking at the following cap hits in 2021:
Patrick Mahomes ($40M)
Frank Clark ($24.2M)
Chris Jones ($22.7)
Tyrann Mathieu ($19.7M)
Tyreek Hill ($15.7M)
In total, the top five players on the Chiefs would be earning $122.3 million, or 58 percent of the salary cap.
Going into this offseason with a projected $200 million salary cap, only one team is currently allocating more than 50 percent to their top five players: the Los Angeles Rams at 54 percent.
Kansas City can always create cap space with extensions and releases, but tying up such a large chunk of money in five players is dangerous. The Chiefs would be largely unable to sign any other meaningful free agents for a few years — including their own — while being completely reliant on the draft to restock departing talent.
In his three years at the helm, Veach has proven to believe in acquiring top-shelf talent and filling in around them with low-cost, high-upside veteran deals (see: Damien Williams, Stefen Wisniewski, Mike Pennel) and rookie deals.
Jones certainly fits Veach’s profile. The question is if he fits into Kansas City’s payroll.
I’m starting to move away from the analytical view that coverage > DL, if I was ever there to begin with. I think football is just an inherently physical game that makes the offensive and defensive lines more important that anything outside of QB.
I’d rather fork the money over to Jones and have a bloated DL than to add to the secondary with someone like a Chris Harris Jr. and Kendall Fuller. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
I just ****ed around and gave Jones the same deal that Clark got, extended Mahomes, gave Fuller 3 years and $25 million, and minimal deals for Sherman, Pennel and Wiz.
Cut Watkins, LDT, Damien Wilson, Erving and Colquitt.
I still have $14 million in cap space this year and $32 million in 2021. And you still have the ability to cut Okafor next offseason to get $6 million in cap space. KPass, Harris and Ward are the only players that really need new deals.
Get off Madden dude. No way in ****ing hell is Kendall Fuller gonna have a market to get $8 million AAV. That’s 26th in the league for corners.
The guy is 25 and looked great in the SB. That is gonna make his value go up big time. That guy is getting paid.
It’s like you all forget that NFL free agency is nuts and teams overpay everyone, even decent players. He’s getting at least $11 million AAV and that’s probably on the low end. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Get off Madden dude. No way in fucking he’ll is Kendall Fuller gonna have a market to get $8 million AAV. That’s 26th in the league for corners.
The guy is 25 and looked great in the SB. That is gonna make his value go up big time. That guy is getting paid.
It’s like you all forget that NFL free agency is nuts and teams overpay everyone, even decent players.
Ok....then let Fuller walk, draft a CB and try and find a another Breeland in the offseason. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Get off Madden dude. No way in ****ing hell is Kendall Fuller gonna have a market to get $8 million AAV. That’s 26th in the league for corners.
The guy is 25 and looked great in the SB. That is gonna make his value go up big time. That guy is getting paid.
It’s like you all forget that NFL free agency is nuts and teams overpay everyone, even decent players. He’s getting at least $11 million AAV and that’s probably on the low end.
Is he even a CB anymore? His value is going to be tricky because one team may seem him at a position that is totally different than the fit the Chiefs see. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bewbies:
Get 3rd round comp pick too.
If we re-sign Jones....then we’re not going to be huge players in FA. Which means we’d be getting comp picks for players like Breeland and Fuller. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
If we re-sign Jones....then we’re not going to be huge players in FA. Which means we’d be getting comp picks for players like Breeland and Fuller.
That’d be interesting to map out. The system is made to help teams like KC out.
You guys would rather pay a guy that converted to safety for about 8 games and had a good SB that much, but god forbid you pay the elite DL that's been a force for years.
Come on.
Fullers and Ogbahs and whoever are the guys you lose after a SB, let someone else pay. Happens every year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
And having the extra picks are nice to get younger, cost controlled players but they aren’t a ****ing guarantee. You could trade Jones for players that don’t amount to shit but are getting guaranteed contracts.
There are pros and cons to each of these sides.
Cleveland had an insane amount of draft capital a few years ago and I'm not sure they can say they got a lot for it. At least not what was expected out of all of those picks [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
You guys would rather pay a guy that converted to safety for about 8 games and had a good SB that much, but god forbid you pay the elite DL that's been a force for years.
Come on.
Fullers and Ogbahs and whoever are the guys you lose after a SB, let someone else pay. Happens every year.
You make it seem like that’s easy. We are about to have the top paid player in the world. Frank Clark is a top 10 paid player in football.
If Chris Jones wants Frank Clark money, that’s another top 10 contract of any position in football.
That’s not counting Landlord, Schwartz, Kelce, Fisher, Hill and Hitchens (2 more years).
Originally Posted by RunKC:
You make it seem like that’s easy. We are about to have the top paid player in the world. Frank Clark is a top 10 paid player in football.
If Chris Jones wants Frank Clark money, that’s another top 10 contract of any position in football.
That’s not counting Landlord, Schwartz, Kelce, Fisher, Hill and Hitchens (2 more years).
It’s not as easy as you think
How much longer are we on the hook for Berry’s salary? [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
You make it seem like that’s easy. We are about to have the top paid player in the world. Frank Clark is a top 10 paid player in football.
If Chris Jones wants Frank Clark money, that’s another top 10 contract of any position in football.
That’s not counting Landlord, Schwartz, Kelce, Fisher, Hill and Hitchens (2 more years).
It’s not as easy as you think
And you're advocating paying a corner/safety no position dude 10 mil per after half a good season?
Stop paying dudes that aren't great, big contracts. Seems pretty easy [Reply]
Plus, there was that rumor that Jones was fine with not getting Frank Clark money if it meant staying in KC and allowing the team to continue to be competitive. No idea what that means— could be a higher guaranteed $$$ figure, which is always risky, but a lower cap hit per year overall.
It probably only means $17-19 instead of $19-21, but every little bit adds up. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Plus, there was that rumor that Jones was fine with not getting Frank Clark money if it meant staying in KC and allowing the team to continue to be competitive. No idea what that means— could be a higher guaranteed $$$ figure, which is always risky, but a lower cap hit per year overall.
It probably only means $17-19 instead of $19-21, but every little bit adds up.
It would be super beneficial to this team if Jones is getting around $18 million and Mahomes is around $37-38 million. [Reply]