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chinaski 01:42 PM 10-06-2020
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EPodolak 10:30 PM 10-13-2020
"OK, I don’t really know what scales they are [laughs.] I really don’t. I know music theory and I know how to write music on paper and how to read for piano but on guitar it’s a different story. I don’t know nothin’ about what a scale is; I know basic notes. I can play what sounds good; what I think is good anyway." EVH 1978
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alpha_omega 02:29 PM 10-16-2020
SAMMY HAGAR Says He Reconnected With EDDIE VAN HALEN At Urging Of Comedian GEORGE LOPEZ

Sammy Hagar has offered more details about his renewed friendship with Eddie Van Halen in the months leading up to the legendary guitarist's death.

Hagar, who previously said he hadn't talked to Eddie since since the conclusion of VAN HALEN's 2004 reunion tour, discussed his former bandmate in a new interview with Guy "Favazz" Favazza of the St. Louis, Missouri radio station KSHE 95.

Hagar said (hear audio below): "I reached out to Eddie because… George Lopez, the comedian, who I've known for a long time and who also is dear friends with Eddie, calls me up and says, 'Sammy, I need you to call Eddie. I played golf with him. He's not doing good,' blah blah blah. And everyone knew Eddie wasn't doing good. He said, 'I just was with him, and he said he loves you and he's so disappointed that you haven't reached out to him.' I said, 'I reached out to all these people. I reached out to Alex [Van Halen, Eddie's brother].' I didn't have Eddie's contact number. I reached out to all these people: 'Tell Eddie I love him. I hope he's doing well.' So George says, 'Here's his number. Call him.' So I call him. And Eddie said — my favorite line from Eddie in a long time… He goes, 'What took you so long?' I go, 'I reached out to Al. I reached out to everybody.' He's going, 'You didn't call me.' And I said, 'Oh, man. Ed, I love you.' And it was just one big love fest from then on. That was back in the beginning of the year, before COVID. So, yeah, we've been texting and talking about Wolfie [Eddie's son Wolfgang Van Halen] and his new record, and about us and the things we did and how great the stuff is."

Sammy went on to say that he was comforted by the fact that he made peace with Eddie before the influential rocker's death.

"Yeah, it's really a sad thing," he said. "It was a tough one. But if I wouldn't have contacted Ed and we buried the hatchet like that and became friends again, I'm not sure how I could have taken it. It would have been devastating."

Asked if former VAN HALEN bassist Michael Anthony had also reached out to Eddie prior to the guitarist's passing, Hagar said: "You'd have to ask Mike that. I don't think so. But Ed told me a million times, 'Give Mike my love,' or something. But I'm not sure they communicated. I don't think so. It's probably not my place [to say]."

Hagar replaced David Lee Roth in VAN HALEN in 1985 and recorded four studio albums with the band — "5150", "OU812", "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" and "Balance" — all of which topped the U.S. chart.

Sammy, Eddie, Alex and Michael last teamed up in 2004 for a U.S. summer tour. In exchange for taking part in the tour, Anthony reportedly had to agree to take a pay cut and sign away his rights to the band name and logo.

In his autobiography, "Red: My Uncensored Life In Rock", Hagar slammed Eddie, saying the guitarist was unkempt, hunched over, frighteningly skinny, drinking wine straight out of a bottle, missing part of his tongue (after a cancer scare) and several teeth. He told an interviewer in 2012: "What happened on that reunion tour in '04 was some of the most miserable, back-stabbing dark crap I've ever been involved with my whole life."

In a 2015 interview with Rolling Stone, Eddie questioned an "embellished" portion of "Red: My Uncensored Life In Rock" that painted the guitarist as a "very angry drunk" during the group's 2004 reunion tour.

Early last year, rumors were rampant that the classic-era lineup of VAN HALEN would reunite for the first time since 1984. It's unclear why the tour didn't happen, though there has been online chatter that a health setback involving Eddie might have been responsible.

Eddie died at St. John's Hospital in Santa Monica, California. His wife, Janie, was by his side, along Wolfgang and Alex.

Eddie died from complications due to cancer, his son confirmed.

The guitarist was diagnosed with mouth cancer in 2000 and had tongue surgery. He later battled throat cancer and reportedly had been receiving radiation treatment in Germany.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/sa...-george-lopez/
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alpha_omega 12:58 PM 10-19-2020
Ha, we'll call this one....Steve Perry is a whiny bitch.

I won't post the whole thing...read at the link if you would like.

Steve Perry Looks Back on Touring With Van Halen and the Eddie Collaboration That Might Have Been

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But one night, I decided I had to go tell him, “I just love you guys.” I open the door and was about to say, “Hey, guys …” Now, back in these days, guacamole came in a cottage-cheese–like container. The band was having a food fight. Just as I was opening the door, a container of guacamole bumped off the mirror to my left and splashed against my most prized possession, being a small town kid from Fresno. It was my satin tour jacket that had “Journey” on the back of it. Wearing that, I felt like I was finally somebody.

The guacamole went on my left shoulder and my left arm. I looked down on it and I looked up at them and they sheepishly laughed like, “Oh shit.” I just looked at them and I closed the door and left because I was pissed. I went into the bathroom and I was just pissed. That was my prized jacket. I still loved them, but I couldn’t give them props anymore after that. I wiped my guacamole off my satin jacket.

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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...ibute-1077489/
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seclark 01:06 PM 10-19-2020
Originally Posted by alpha_omega:
Ha, we'll call this one....Steve Perry is a whiny bitch.

I won't post the whole thing...read at the link if you would like.

Steve Perry Looks Back on Touring With Van Halen and the Eddie Collaboration That Might Have Been

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But one night, I decided I had to go tell him, “I just love you guys.” I open the door and was about to say, “Hey, guys …” Now, back in these days, guacamole came in a cottage-cheese–like container. The band was having a food fight. Just as I was opening the door, a container of guacamole bumped off the mirror to my left and splashed against my most prized possession, being a small town kid from Fresno. It was my satin tour jacket that had “Journey” on the back of it. Wearing that, I felt like I was finally somebody.

The guacamole went on my left shoulder and my left arm. I looked down on it and I looked up at them and they sheepishly laughed like, “Oh shit.” I just looked at them and I closed the door and left because I was pissed. I went into the bathroom and I was just pissed. That was my prized jacket. I still loved them, but I couldn’t give them props anymore after that. I wiped my guacamole off my satin jacket.

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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...ibute-1077489/
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DeepPurple 01:27 PM 10-19-2020
Steve Perry said "I am convinced that Journey became something we would not have become had we not spent that time together with Van Halen in 1978."

Sounds to me like he's giving props to their time with VH. If Perry whined about the jacket, that's because it was his most prized possession at the time. Like if someone had put a scratch on your brand new car, I don't see a problem with that. I saw Journey in '80 and they were Great!!

As as far Sammy Hagar mending his feelings with Eddie, that's also great. After having read his book "Red" I got the feeling the animosity came from the brothers when they felt Sammy had sandbagged them on the Cabo club deal. They complained so much about such a bad investment Sammy got them into, he paid them back their $100K. Then he turns the club around and it becomes a money maker and they get bent that he wanted the club for himself and screwed them. It's called hard work and a little creativity.
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big nasty kcnut 01:29 PM 10-19-2020
Shit I'm very creative but with my cp i can't unlock it. I have so many music ideas and yet can't unlock them.
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eDave 08:49 PM 10-19-2020
Knuckleheads. This afternoon.


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KC Dan 08:59 PM 10-19-2020
Originally Posted by eDave:
Knuckleheads:

Love it!
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DaneMcCloud 09:07 PM 10-19-2020
Originally Posted by alpha_omega:
Ha, we'll call this one....Steve Perry is a whiny bitch.
That's not true or fair, at all.

That interview and response was pure Steve Perry. He's still a very, very private person that considers himself a "small town guy" and I can totally understand why he'd feel that way.

On top of that, Steve wouldn't have fit with Van Halen. Besides the fact that Steve's never been a huge partier, his vocal style just wouldn't have been fit. And like he's said, singing the Roth catalog would have been very difficult for him because it's just a completely different style of signing. Plus, Eddie was so wasted out of his mind during those years that he was asking anyone and everyone to sing for Van Halen.

Also, Journey had sold around 40 million albums at that time while Van Halen had barely sold 20 million, so leaving Journey wouldn't have made much financial sense, either. Journey has gone on to sell 80+ million while VH is at 56 million, most of those occurring with Sammy.
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alpha_omega 01:44 PM 10-20-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
That's not true or fair, at all.

That interview and response was pure Steve Perry. He's still a very, very private person that considers himself a "small town guy" and I can totally understand why he'd feel that way.
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Fair enough (on me not being fair). I'll take your word for it, you are surely closer to the situation than any of us.

I found it amusing though..."oh no, my satin jacket"
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alpha_omega 01:48 PM 10-20-2020
An unlikely Pasadena love story: The high-school bromance of Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth



Early in the summer of 1973, singer David Lee Roth and guitarist Eddie Van Halen performed together for the first time. Playing in front of an audience of buzzed students from John Muir, Blair and Pasadena high schools in an east Pasadena backyard, this embryonic version of Van Halen, then called Mammoth, blasted out songs by Black Sabbath, Grand Funk Railroad and Cream, rattling windows and shattering eardrums while party attendees chugged keg beer.

Last week, Eddie Van Halen died from cancer, at age 65, and tributes to his transformational musical contributions poured in from around the world. But long before anyone outside of the San Gabriel Valley had heard of the band, this pairing of two aspiring musicians who had little in common save their long hair drew together a generation of hard-rock-loving SoCal teens.

The Pasadena chapter of the Van Halen story begins in 1962. That year, the Van Halen family — 7-year-old Eddie, his older brother, Alex, and their parents, Jan and Eugenia — emigrated to America from Holland. They spoke no English, making the trip with a few suitcases, about $15 and the family’s treasured piano.

Jan Van Halen, a Dutch big-band musician, had in 1950 married Eugenia Van Beers, a Eurasian woman whom he met while on an extended tour of Indonesia, in Jakarta. In 1953, they migrated to Amsterdam to escape Indonesia’s political instability. Then after nearly a decade in Europe, they left Holland for the United States. According to Alex, they moved because his father believed “America was the land of opportunity” that would provide him ample musical prospects.

Years later, Eddie would remark that his father’s conception of his family’s new homeland initially turned out to be a “crock of s—.” With big band music out of fashion, his father’s first job in America was as a dishwasher at Methodist Hospital in Arcadia. Eugenia worked hard as well, cleaning houses to supplement her family’s income.

Eddie’s first experiences in America were similarly bracing. In a 2015 appearance at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History, Eddie recalled how his initial days as a second-grade student in Pasadena were “absolutely frightening.” As a Dutch-speaking immigrant, Eddie was, in his words, considered a “minority” and grouped on the playground with his Black classmates as part of his elementary school’s de facto segregation policy.

“My first friends in America were Black,” he said. “It was actually the white people that were the bullies. They would tear up my homework papers, make me eat playground sand and all these things, and the Black kids stuck up for me.” Eddie later emphasized the character-building aspects of this bullying, saying that for him and his brother, these soul-searing moments “made us stronger because you had to [be].”

These experiences bonded the brothers and the family. Eddie and Alex, who’d begun taking piano lessons in Holland, continued them in America. Their mother was a strong advocate for this musical education. Eugenia, who knew her husband’s career struggles better than anyone, wanted to assure that if her sons were going to follow in their father’s footsteps, they’d pursue a more respectable and stable musical path, one that would keep them out of nightclubs. Her dream for her sons was for them to become classical pianists. As Eddie put it, that drove her to “crack the whip” over lessons.

Despite their mother’s best efforts, Eddie and Alex soon became enamored with hard rock, a shift that roughly coincided with the family’s purchase of a compact two-bedroom home at 1881 Las Lunas St. in a heavily white neighborhood, just north of the 210, in the central part of Pasadena. In their new residence, the Van Halen brothers forged a tight musical partnership, with Eddie on guitar and Alex on drums. Childhood friend Tom Broderick remembers that Eddie quickly became obsessed with his instrument. “We never played football or rode bikes together, and to be honest I rarely saw him in class at school,” he tells The Times. “When I did see him, he was jamming at a party.”

By the fall of 1969, Eddie and Alex had enrolled in their neighborhood school, Pasadena High. Months later, a federal district court issued a momentous decision, holding that the Pasadena City Board of Education had violated the 14th Amendment rights of students through its segregation policies. The court ordered that by the start of the 1970 school year, no student body at any city school could “reflect” a majority of “minority students.”

In practice, this meant that Pasadena Unified School District needed to rebalance the demographic makeup of the city’s schools, including its three senior high schools: Pasadena High; John Muir, about three miles west of Pasadena High; and Blair, on the south side of Pasadena. To address this inequality, the city developed a busing plan in which students of color shifted to the majority-white Pasadena and Blair high schools, and white students transferred to the heavily Black and Latino Muir High School.

While the Van Halen brothers would remain enrolled in their neighborhood high school, David Lee Roth, who’d moved to greater Pasadena from Massachusetts in 1963, would have a different experience. Roth, the Jewish son of a successful ophthalmologist, would be bused from the city’s south side to Muir in 1969, his sophomore year. Even Roth, who had grown up around Black people and had a longstanding affinity for Black culture, likely felt unprepared for the cultural immersion that awaited him at Muir. His high school friend George Perez explains, “At Muir, you had militant Blacks, who had Afros and Angela Davis posters in their lockers. You had longhaired white hippies and Mexicans as well.”

Roth was adept at navigating this racial and ethnic terrain. Vincent Carberry, who was tight with Roth, explains that Roth “got very good at bridging the gaps” and “getting along with everyone, whether that meant embracing Black and Spanish music, playing soccer or whatever else.”

Another friend, Dan Hernandez, concurs, saying that while Roth’s volubility made him a great diplomat, ultimately Roth had credibility in the halls of Muir because “he was basically a white dude who wanted to be Black. He had soul.”

By the time Roth graduated in 1972, he’d begun singing in a rock band. His showmanship and charisma drew a strong multiethnic following among Muir students. He’d also begun sizing up the competition, namely Mammoth, a trio consisting of the Van Halen brothers and bassist Mark Stone, at a number of backyard parties. Recognizing the immense musical talents of Eddie and Alex, he began angling for a way to join their band as lead vocalist.

At first, the Van Halen brothers were less than enthusiastic about Roth’s entreaties. Everything, from Roth’s social class and cultural style to his musical taste, turned them off. Roth’s father had money. The young singer wore flares and suspenders, a Bowie-inspired shag, and platforms. He liked Billy Preston, Sly and the Family Stone and the Rolling Stones. The Van Halen brothers were blue-collar kids who wore their hair straight and long. Chain-smoking Camels, they pioneered the grunge look long before the birth of Nirvana: They favored Pendleton flannels, lightweight cords or faded denims, and desert boots.

Most important, they had little use for the soul and funk music favored by Roth. Instead, Mammoth played the hard rock hits of the day by Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and Cream. As Roth told the Guardian in 2012, Van Halen and their Pasadena High buddies were “98% Jeff Spicoli.” Apart from their deep mutual interest in becoming professional rock musicians, they had little in common.

Ultimately, Roth won the brothers over, in no small part because Eddie, who was Mammoth’s lead vocalist and guitarist, didn’t like singing lead. Roth, however, saw more sociological factors at work, telling The Times in 2012 that the “immigrant energy” of the Van Halen family, along with his own intense drive to succeed, made them a perfect pairing: “desperate people seeking desperate fortune — with a smile.” Soon after, upon Roth’s suggestion, the band changed its name from Mammoth to Van Halen.

Although it took the Van Halen brothers’ fans some time to warm up to Roth, Van Halen inarguably became a better band with a ringmaster like Roth fronting the group. This union of talents also broadened and expanded the band’s fan base by drawing together a broad swath of fans from their respective high schools. “Backyard parties,” Roth observed in his 1997 autobiography, “developed into an art form.” From 1973-75, Van Halen would play dozens and dozens of these gatherings.

Early in the school week, enterprising hosts, often wealthy teens or young adults whose parents had decided to take a ski vacation to Aspen or a skin-diving trip to the Caribbean, printed hundreds of party fliers trumpeting the appeal of Van Halen and plentiful keg beer. The hosts and their friends then distributed the fliers across the city. “At the three different high schools,” Patti Smith Sutlick, then a Blair student, says, “the talk all week was, ‘Where’s the party this weekend?’”

If no sure answer was forthcoming by Friday night, teenagers made a beeline for the corner of Allen Avenue and East Villa Street. Jan Velasco Kosharek, who grew up in the neighborhood, says the small commercial district there included a florist, a gas station and a very well patronized business, Allen Villa Liquor. Located a couple of blocks from the Van Halen home, it was where Jan Van Halen and his sons bought their beer. Marcia Maxwell, another Pasadenan, recalls, “We’d ask Larry, the owner, ‘Where’s the party?’ And off we’d go.”

Even if kids didn’t know the exact address, these parties weren’t hard to find. By rolling down their car windows, they could, by following the reverberating Eddie Van Halen riffs and David Lee Roth screams, make their way to the right spot. Debbie Hannaford Lorenz, who grew up in neighboring San Marino, observes: “When I hear a Van Halen song, I remember walking down the dark street with all the cars and the music echoing everywhere. My friends and I were always so excited to go to these parties.”

This kind of buzz was enhanced by the ample substances on hand. Along with abundant alcohol — whisky pilfered from parents’ liquor cabinets, Boone’s Farm Apple Wine bought at Trader Joe’s for a buck, and gallons of keg beer — drugs were readily available. During this golden age of recreational drug experimentation, there was plenty of pot, coke, acid, mescaline, peyote, mushrooms and quaaludes. As one local summarized: “What do I remember about those Van Halen backyard parties? Lots of drunkenness, lots of fun and lots of drugs.”

Art Agajanian, who hosted a monstrous Van Halen party at his parents’ Chapman Woods home in 1973, says: “It was the perfect moment in time to have these parties. Something like a thousand people came, from all three high schools: football players, everyone. A lot of relationships and friendships started because of it. ”

Van Halen’s role as house band for the Pasadena backyard party scene came to an end around 1975. After making a name for itself on the Sunset Strip, Van Halen released its debut album in early 1978, which would sell more than 2 million copies worldwide before the year ended. The band had become rock superstars.

Still, the Van Halen brothers kept living at their family’s home on Las Lunas through the end of the decade. Only after Eddie Van Halen began his relationship with his future wife, actress Valerie Bertinelli, did he move out of his childhood home.

Some 40 years later, the central Pasadena neighborhood where the Van Halen brothers grew up has changed in some significant ways. Hispanics now outnumber whites, with a growing community of Armenians in the vicinity as well. Blacks, who lived there in relatively small numbers back in the 1960s, now represent nearly 10% of the population. Michael Kelley, a longtime resident of the area, says, “This neighborhood has become much more multiethnic and wealthier as well.”

The commercial strip at the corner of Allen Avenue and East Villa Street has also experienced a transformation. The only holdover from the 1970s is the liquor store, now called M&S Liquors. On the sidewalk surrounding its entrance, a memorial of votive candles, flowers, guitar picks and chalked messages to Eddie Van Halen adorns the concrete. In time, these tributes will fade, leaving behind one permanent representation of the mark that Eddie made upon his neighborhood: a many-decades-old etching of VAN HALEN, carved deeply into the gray curb.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...na-high-school
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DaneMcCloud 01:52 PM 10-20-2020
Originally Posted by alpha_omega:
Fair enough (on me not being fair). I'll take your word for it, you are surely closer to the situation than any of us.

I found it amusing though..."oh no, my satin jacket"
It was the late 70's, Dude.

We ALL had satin jackets. :-)
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Dartgod 01:59 PM 10-20-2020
Originally Posted by KC Dan:
Love it!
Me and the Mrs. were off work Friday and went to Harrah's for a little while. I've never seen the Knuckleheads mural in person so I decided to drive by there on the way home. I told the wife that I would not be surprised if Stevie was there doing an EVH painting. There was no one there when we arrived but then I noticed a ladder and his painting stuff there. A few minutes later he shows up, had been out to get lunch. We had a nice visit.



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ptlyon 02:13 PM 10-20-2020
That's pretty awesome Stevie! :-)
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alpha_omega 12:50 PM 10-21-2020
Eddie Van Halen Memorial in the Offing? City Council to Discuss the Possibility on Monday

Plans for a memorial honoring guitar great and former Pasadena resident Eddie Van Halen will go before the City Council on Monday.

City Public Information Officer Lisa Derderian confirmed the item would appear on Monday’s agenda, but said additional information was not yet available.

Van Halen died Oct. 6 after a battle with cancer.

Pasadena residents Randa Schmalfeld and Julie Kimura have raised $5,200 through the online fundraising platform gofundme.com in hopes of having a street or alley named in honor of the rock star, who they call “Pasadena’s own guitar hero.”

The donations have exceeded their $3,000 goal.

“We are delighted that the City Council is moving so quickly to consider a dedicated public space here in Van Halen’s hometown,” said Schmalfeld. “We envision a place where fans can forever honor and celebrate the brilliance of Eddie Van Halen and the phenomenal success of Pasadena’s Hometown Band. The overwhelmingly positive response to our campaign demonstrates the desire of our community to honor Eddie and his bandmates. We are hopeful that the council will decide in our favor and we are looking forward to next steps in forever honoring Pasadena’s favorite Rock Stars!”

Last week, Shmalfled said the surplus money raised in the campaign will be donated to music programs at Pasadena High School.

City Councilmember-elect Felicia Williams, who will join the council in December, has also talked to staff about naming an alley after Van Halen.

“This is not just a tribute to an amazing musician. It is also a chance to hear the cultural story about the Van Halen brothers and their experience in the U.S. and PUSD. It is an inspiration for us to embrace our differences and encourage success in all of us,” Williams told Pasadena Now.

Van Halen was born in 1955 to Jan Van Halen, a jazz pianist, clarinetist, and saxophonist, and Eugenia Van Halen, who was from Indonesia, formerly known as the Dutch East Indies. The Van Halen family moved to Pasadena in 1962. But when they arrived in Pasadena, Eddie and his brother Alex faced racism because they were mixed-race children and spoke little English.

In a 2017 interview with Smithsonian Magazine, Eddie Van Halen remembered his first friends in America were Black and protected him from white kids who would tear up his homework and make him eat playground sand.

Despite those experiences, he said he was grateful for his experience as an immigrant.

After graduating from PHS, Eddie and Alex attended Pasadena City College, where Eddie met David Lee Roth, who graduated from John Muir High School. The two started a group called Broken Comb before adopting the name Mammoth. Mammoth performed in the early 1970s on the Sexson Auditorium stage at PCC.

According to a 2018 Pasadena Now article written by Michelle Nati, the Van Halen brothers honed their sound at backyard parties and high school dances in the Crown City before making their way to the Sunset Strip, and later being signed by Warner Bros.

After the band hit the big time, Eddie Van Halen would play with his back to the audience to deal with his stage fright, and because he was worried other guitarists would steal his techniques.

https://www.pasadenanow.com/main/cit...ial-on-monday/
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