Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Holy shit...I think this is the first time I have gone to Worldometers and not seen any new deaths out of CA. They usually are one of the first to report some deaths even if it isn't their total. They have reported new cases but no new deaths. I'm gonna roll with that as good news.
Not sure why you think it's meaningful. It's not like they actually are going to have zero deaths. [Reply]
I think these results would change with a larger sample size among a broader population (the fact this poll was conducted by Seton Hall could mean they surveyed mostly people in New Jersey who are currently experiencing one of the worst outbreaks of COVID-19)...
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Some 72% of Americans polled said they would not attend if sporting events resumed without a vaccine for the coronavirus. The poll, which had a fairly small sample size of 762 respondents, was released Thursday by Seton Hall University's Stillman School of Business.
When polling respondents who identified as sports fans, 61% said they would not go to a game without a vaccine. The margin of error is plus-or-minus 3.6%.
Only 12% of all respondents said they would go to games if social distancing could be maintained, which would likely lead to a highly reduced number of fans, staff and media at games.
Just 13% of Americans said they would feel comfortable attending games again the way they had in the past.
A compromise could be found in having games with no fans, an idea that garnered sufficient support. More than three-fourths -- 76% -- said they would watch broadcasts of games without fans and do so with the same amount of interest they had before the pandemic. Only 16% said they would be less interested, but 7% said they would be more interested.
Though there has been discussion of games without spectators, nearly half of respondents -- 46% -- said they think sports will be canceled through the end of 2020.
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Do you find this odd?
I have never taken one puff off a cigarette in my life.
But I have smoked weed many times.
Is this common?
Yes, cigarettes are all about a very addictive chemical drug, nicotine. You feel you cant live without it. Weed is about a drug, THC that makes you feel good but its not addictive chemically. Totally different.
Originally Posted by 2112:
It will be 20 years in September for me since I quit. And I smoked from since I was 12 years old until I was 35. I did it cold turkey and you could still smoke in all bars back then so it’s probably easier now. It took two ****ing years for me to get those ****ing things out of my head. You revolve your daily activities around them coffee, food, beers et al.
30 years ago for me. About 10 years after quitting, I got a craving for a cigarette after a meal. Just out of the blue. That shit gets in your brain stem and will fight like hell to make sure you get that drug. [Reply]
Ran to the grocery store this morning. Most people wearing masks. That being said caught some media updates on the radio thing and it just amazes me how they are freaking out about the high unemployment rate and low prices of gas.
I mean when you literally shut down the majority of the economy what is it people expected? [Reply]
Also heard the Sg say that "social distancing" will be the new normal after this is all said and done. I have news for him...that ain't gonna happen. [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Also heard the Sg say that "social distancing" will be the new normal after this is all said and done. I have news for him...that ain't gonna happen.
People aren’t following social distancing now with a pandemic. And they think they will after it’s gone? [Reply]
Originally Posted by 2112:
People aren’t following social distancing now with a pandemic. And they think they will after it’s gone?
Even if they were it is completely unrealistic to expect people to maintain a consistent 6ft distance and such. Could you imagine what a sporting event would be like or a movie? [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Even if they were it is completely unrealistic to expect people to maintain a consistent 6ft distance and such. Could you imaging what a sporting event would be like or a movie?
Once this is over I’m expecting things to be back to business as usual. [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Ran to the grocery store this morning. Most people wearing masks. That being said caught some media updates on the radio thing and it just amazes me how they are freaking out about the high unemployment rate and low prices of gas.
I mean when you literally shut down the majority of the economy what is it people expected?
I'm sure people were expecting unemployment to increase dramatically. And, when they learn of the actual numbers, sure they have reactions like, "Wow, that's a lot." [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Yes, cigarettes are all about a very addictive chemical drug, nicotine. You feel you cant live without it. Weed is about a drug, THC that makes you feel good but its not addictive chemically. Totally different.
30 years ago for me. About 10 years after quitting, I got a craving for a cigarette after a meal. Just out of the blue. That shit gets in your brain stem and will fight like hell to make sure you get that drug.
Best thing they did was ban smoking in bars and restaurants here in 2006. My clothes don’t stink like smoke anymore. I’ll still smoke an occasional cigar though [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Also heard the Sg say that "social distancing" will be the new normal after this is all said and done. I have news for him...that ain't gonna happen.
That’s probably the stupidest thing I’ve heard. [Reply]
Some people aren't. I'm sure at some point in the future we'll prob see some numbers on what % have and have not but as far as I can tell the majority of people are doing the SD thing. [Reply]
