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Nzoner's Game Room>Houston Astros get hammered for cheating
siberian khatru 12:59 PM 01-13-2020

BREAKING: Per sources, MLB’s penalties for #Astros include:

*One-year suspensions for GM Jeff Luhnow and manager AJ Hinch.

*Losses of 1st and 2nd round draft picks in both 2020 and ‘21.

*A fine of $5M.

Full story and more context with @EvanDrellich: https://t.co/djvKEYFiC7

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) January 13, 2020



No players were disciplined by Major League Baseball in the Astros' investigation. While Mets manager Carlos Beltran was part of it, he was a player at the time and thus was not suspended.

Discipline for Red Sox manager Alex Cora is coming. It is going to be harsh, per sources.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) January 13, 2020


Jim Crane just fired Jeff Luhnow and AJ Hinch.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) January 13, 2020

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The Franchise 01:46 PM 02-18-2020
Hope everyone of these cheating fucks get hit with pitches when they’re at the plate.

Baker is already calling for the MLB to step in with this issue.
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Mecca 01:54 PM 02-18-2020
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Hope everyone of these cheating fucks get hit with pitches when they’re at the plate.

Baker is already calling for the MLB to step in with this issue.
It'll be great when dudes are ejected immediately and hit with super long suspensions.
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The Franchise 01:55 PM 02-18-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
It'll be great when dudes are ejected immediately and hit with super long suspensions.
Don’t think it will stop them.
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Go Royals 02:10 PM 02-18-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
It'll be great when dudes are ejected immediately and hit with super long suspensions.
I think theres an argument to be made for this. You give a long suspension to a player for an action that only affected a single baserunner. MLBPA could have a field day with that, "You suspended X pitcher for a beanball, but not a single Astros player was suspended for tainting entire seasons."
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Jerm 02:52 PM 02-18-2020
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
If the steroid era taught us anything, it’s that the cheaters are waaayy ahead of the people trying to catch the cheaters.

Read Game of Shadows if you haven’t. That book discusses in great detail how they were able to create new substances to cheat drug tests. They were so far ahead of the testers.
Reminds me of Icarus which is an amazing documentary about the Russian doping scandal...

Rodchenkov's methods and the Russians' entire system was insane...

Can only imagine in 2020 what teams will come up with.
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Pitt Gorilla 02:54 PM 02-18-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
It'll be great when dudes are ejected immediately and hit with super long suspensions.
Literally nobody is stupid enough to think that would happen.
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Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 03:43 PM 02-18-2020
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Hope everyone of these cheating fucks get hit with pitches when they’re at the plate.

Baker is already calling for the MLB to step in with this issue.
According to Vegas, the O/U for Astros getting beaned this year is 86.5

Also, the players are getting more upset. Trout and Markakis just called out the Commissioner stating that the Astro (and possibly RedSox) players who participated should be suspended/banned (Although Markakis said "should be beaten".)
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JakeF 03:46 PM 02-18-2020
Players complaining about the MLB Head office not punishing the players is such a joke. They would have rebelled and done all sorts of shit if they have started suspending Astro players about the cheating. No matter what happens they complain about the Commissioner when almost all the problems stem from the MLBPA having too much power.

There would be rules about cheating in place if the Union would allow it. Just like PEDs would have been handled years earlier if the Union hadn't of prevented it. There would be more parity in the league if the Union didn't screw it up.

Most of the problems in the league stem from the players not the Commissioner.
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BigRedChief 05:27 PM 02-18-2020
Originally Posted by JakeF:
Players complaining about the MLB Head office not punishing the players is such a joke. They would have rebelled and done all sorts of shit if they have started suspending Astro players about the cheating. No matter what happens they complain about the Commissioner when almost all the problems stem from the MLBPA having too much power.

There would be rules about cheating in place if the Union would allow it. Just like PEDs would have been handled years earlier if the Union hadn't of prevented it. There would be more parity in the league if the Union didn't screw it up.

Most of the problems in the league stem from the players not the Commissioner.

Listen I know I don’t play baseball but I am in Sports and I know if someone cheated me out of winning the title and I found out about it I would be F*^king irate! I mean like uncontrollable about what I would/could do! Listen here baseball commissioner listen to your.....

— LeBron James (@KingJames) :-)920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 18, 2020

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BigRedChief 05:43 PM 02-18-2020
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Seems like a simple solution. Too bad the commissioner is a simple simpleton. If there's any plus out of this it's that Manfred has botched this so badly he might get shoved out.
the only thing that may give any team/player pause is the death penalty or instaneonous banning for a year or two if caught.

Baseball is an old school sport but it has to wake up to modern day tech being used to cheat.
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Sassy Squatch 05:54 PM 02-18-2020
Bit surprised at just how heated this is getting now. Hopefully it leads to Manfred getting the axe.
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Megatron96 05:57 PM 02-18-2020
The Black Sox were banned for life for throwing the Series. And they couldn't even prove that some of the players really cheated.

Mickey Mantle was banned for taking a job with a casino, after he retired, IIRC.

Pete Rose was banned for a betting on games as a manager.

Jenry Mejia (may have screwed up spelling that ) was banned for life for PEDs.

It makes absolutely no sense that the Astros players aren't being punished. They were caught cheating, plain and simple. They should be banned or suspended for at least a season.
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Gravedigger 06:05 PM 02-18-2020

This dude banging the trash can during Astros BP is the real MVP 😂😂pic.twitter.com/GRx1GXQISf

— ShitBallPlayersSay (@baseballshit) February 18, 2020

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RunKC 06:17 PM 02-18-2020
Too bad the NFL lets this shit fly in their league
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Mecca 07:17 PM 02-18-2020
The same players that are complaining would have went a long with it has it been them. Let's be honest here, it's not like the Astros assembled the 25 players without morals to do this.
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