Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Toney, not even a question. When healthy, Toney has the ability to make a play, maybe even a game-changing play. Maybe even two in a single game. Moore, he's probably a really nice kid, but he just . . . he's greg Dieter.
Some of those game-changing plays will benefit the Chiefs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by trndobrd:
Some of those game-changing plays will benefit the Chiefs.
lol, yeah.
Look, I get that people have real hate towards KT. After he posted that idiotic tweet about Andy and the Chiefs lying about his health status, that was the last straw for me as well. Any last vestige of goodwill in my heart died the moment I read that shit.
But the question here is about which of the two actually could help the team in 2024, not which is the nicer/more likeable kid.
And Toney, while being kind of an idiot, and the fact that he had an abominably bad season last year, actually has the physical skills and talent to make real NFL-caliber plays when healthy.
Hell, in his first season with NYG he had a 200+ yard game vs. DAL, and he torched that defense. Now, you can argue that he mostly caught screens and other nonsense type plays to do that, but the bottom line . . . well, go watch that highlight reel and tell me how many of those plays Skyy could make. It's going to be a really short list if you're honest about it. Like 2 or 3 max.
Go watch Toney's (albeit short) highlight reel from his first season in KC. He made some pretty nice plays in that reel. Skyy just isn't on the same level as an athlete or as a WR. It's just that simple for me.
Toney, when he's healthy and pulls his head out of his ass, can make real NFL game-changing plays. Moore has never shown that kind of ability.
If I have to keep one of these guys, that's what I'm going to look at. What can either do for the team's chances to win a third SB. Not whether I like the guy as a person or not. [Reply]
I think the question should be is there room on this team for either of them?
- Hollywood
- Rice
- Worthy
- Watson
- Toney
- Skyy
- Powell(!)
- Anthony Miller
- Jacob Copeland
- Remigio
- Ross
- Shi Smith
- Montrell Washington
I'll assume we're keeping 6 this year with out four TE's. After the top four guys, who is worthy of the last two spots? And remember that is squarely in special teams territory..... [Reply]
Toney alone cost us two games and I don't see how you can trust him going forward based on his butterfingers that magically end up in the opponent's hands. Don't get me wrong, Moore isn't anything special; but at least he isn't actively aiding the opposing team with his garbage play. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
You could read Pat’s lips after Toney ****ed up against the Eagles.
“Can’t trust that guy”
That’s a big deal.
Patrick's meltdown on the sideline last year was directed at the refs but the cause of it was because of Toney's incompetence. His anger finally spilled over in the worst way. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
You could read Pat’s lips after Toney ****ed up against the Eagles.
“Can’t trust that guy”
That’s a big deal.
Eagles game was MVS. Toney had the bobble ball pick 6 against the Lions, the Offsides against Buffalo, and the bobble ball interception against New England. It felt like the Patriots game was the last straw for Toney. [Reply]
Veach and Reid calling Toney the most talented receiver on their roster means one of two things:
1.) They are trying to pump up his value in order to get ANY sort of trade compensation and for someone else to eat his cap hit.
2.) They are all-in on giving him one FINAL chance and are trying to pump up his confidence.
His pure ability is off the charts. If he pulls his head out of his ass, buys in 100%, just focuses on CATCHING the ball and stays somewhat healthy, this team is untouchable. [Reply]
Toney's a fruit and Moore can't run more than one play a game properly. Veach drafted Moore and took a stab at Toney and both failed. Take your losses and move on. It's not like marriage where there's a lifetime of alimony. [Reply]