That's a fair trade for both teams. KCC is underrating Ingram, who is a viable scoring option. Ball is a defender only, though. NO should take Garland, trade Ball for a mid-lottery pick, and look for a rim protector. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
That's a fair trade for both teams. KCC is underrating Ingram, who is a viable scoring option. Ball is a defender only, though. NO should take Garland, trade Ball for a mid-lottery pick, and look for a rim protector.
They’re going to have to give Ingram the max to keep him so his development better make a huge jump forward to justify it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Biggest losers here are the Celtics as well. It was only a year ago that they looked like they had a great future and could be the next Warriors, but after Kyrie goes, they're almost entirely reliant on Tatum becoming elite and after that they've got a whole lot of nothing. Clearly they never should have passed up the Kawhi offer last summer. They put all their chips in on Kyrie and the potential of AD and it didn't pay off.
I mean that's what happens when Gordon Hayward doesn't come back the same as he was pre-injury. Going to happen to Durant too. There's nothing you can do about sunk cost [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
That's a fair trade for both teams. KCC is underrating Ingram, who is a viable scoring option. Ball is a defender only, though. NO should take Garland, trade Ball for a mid-lottery pick, and look for a rim protector.
Brandon Ingram as a 3rd year NBA player: 0.055 WS/48, -2.2 OBPM, -0.3 VORP
Andrew Wiggins as a 3rd year NBA player: 0.066 WS/48, 0.2 OBPM, -0.6 VORP
He's a scoring option like Andrew Wiggins is a scoring option all right. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
They’re going to have to give Ingram the max to keep him so his development better make a huge jump forward to justify it.
I'm sure that won't work out like the Wiggins contract at all. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Biggest losers here are the Celtics as well. It was only a year ago that they looked like they had a great future and could be the next Warriors, but after Kyrie goes, they're almost entirely reliant on Tatum becoming elite and after that they've got a whole lot of nothing. Clearly they never should have passed up the Kawhi offer last summer. They put all their chips in on Kyrie and the potential of AD and it didn't pay off.
That's what they get for being hoarders when NBA is star driven not asset driven. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
They’re going to have to give Ingram the max to keep him so his development better make a huge jump forward to justify it.
He'll get the opportunity this year. If not, they aren't out much. They weren't keeping Davis, regardless, and they weren't getting Tatum. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
That's a fair trade for both teams. KCC is underrating Ingram, who is a viable scoring option. Ball is a defender only, though. NO should take Garland, trade Ball for a mid-lottery pick, and look for a rim protector.
I don't like ball but him playing with Zion should be interesting with his passing ability. Upper middle class man's CP3 to Griffin connection. [Reply]
Originally Posted by mcaj22:
I mean that's what happens when Gordon Hayward doesn't come back the same as he was pre-injury. Going to happen to Durant too. There's nothing you can do about sunk cost
That's part of it, but Hayward was honestly never that good anyway. Ainge should have taken more risk than he did with all these assets he accumulated but he kept waiting for something that never ended up happening instead of taking advantage of an opportunity/taking a risk like Ujiri did and it cost them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Brandon Ingram as a 3rd year NBA player: 0.055 WS/48, -2.2 OBPM, -0.3 VORP
Andrew Wiggins as a 3rd year NBA player: 0.066 WS/48, 0.2 OBPM, -0.6 VORP
He's a scoring option like Andrew Wiggins is a scoring option all right.
Ingram had a stretch right before his clot where he was putting up around 28 PPG. He was really turning a corner. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
I don't like ball but him playing with Zion should be interesting with his passing ability. Upper middle class man's CP3 to Griffin connection.
That's true for the whole team, it's basically Lonzo and four guys who can drop 20 a game, assuming Zion comes in at that level. They really need a shooter though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Ingram had a stretch right before his clot where he was putting up around 28 PPG. He was really turning a corner.
We'll see. He needs to take a lot more threes and/or shoot a lot more free throws if he wants to be a good player in this NBA. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tk13:
That's true for the whole team, it's basically Lonzo and four guys who can drop 20 a game, assuming Zion comes in at that level. They really need a shooter though.
Yeah they have potential. They need a 3 and D guy and a 5 and they should be a playoff team. [Reply]
